Favorite Haydn Symphonies Cycle (incomplete)

[DavidW]

I don;t think so - Hogwood goes to 75 I think and then you have a gap between 75 and 82? Goodman could fill 76-78, but not sure who is available for 79-81.

So screw PI did Fey do those symphonies in that gap?

[mc ukrneal]

So screw PI did Fey do those symphonies in that gap?

Nope.

EDIT: FIscher has 70-81 in a separate box on Nimbus.

[Sergeant Rock]

For those who are interested in PI numbers;

Hogwood       81
Goodman       60
Brüggen         42
Solomons       34
Harnoncourt  17 PI  13 MI = 30
Kuijkens         26
Pinnock          22
Weil               21
Minkowski      12

Not sure if anyone could do this with MI versions (or would!) Certainly I can't.

Only a partial list, but includes some of the big names:

MI

Szell 10
Bernstein 20 (21 if you include 105)
Klemperer 9
Tate 12
Jochum 14
Davis 19
Karajan 18
Norrington 12
Barenboim 10 (he's the only one to delve into the pre-Paris symphonies)

Hybrid

Fey 48 (and counting)

[Karl Henning]

Only a partial list, but includes some of the big names [...]

Lenny wins! Go New York!

[Scarpia]

Only a partial list, but includes some of the big names:

MI

Szell 10
Bernstein 20
Klemperer 9
Tate 12
Jochum 14
Davis 19
Karajan 18
Norrington 12
Barenboim 10 (he's the only one to delve into the pre-Paris symphonies)

Hybrid

Fey 48 (and counting)

Ansermet 6
Dutoit 6
Orpheus 16?

[Gurn Blanston]

Only a partial list, but includes some of the big names:

MI

Szell 10
Bernstein 20
Klemperer 9
Tate 12
Jochum 14
Davis 19
Karajan 18
Norrington 12
Barenboim 10 (he's the only one to delve into the pre-Paris symphonies)

Hybrid

Fey 48 (and counting)

Thanks, Sarge. Have to say I'm surprised by some things, like the low numbers to start with. One thing I'm curious about is how many the Orpheus Chamber Orchestra did. I have a couple disks of their that are really very decent, but I don't know how many they did in all.

Lenny's numbers include both the NYPO & VPO?

[Karl Henning]

Lenny's numbers include both the NYPO & VPO?

Yes, except the I:105 with the Wieners:

NY Phil: Hob.I/82-88, 93-104

Wiener Philharmoniker: Hob.I/88, 92, 94, 105

[Sergeant Rock]

Thanks, Sarge. Have to say I'm surprised by some things, like the low numbers to start with. One thing I'm curious about is how many the Orpheus Chamber Orchestra did. I have a couple disks of their that are really very decent, but I don't know how many they did in all.

Lenny's numbers include both the NYPO & VPO?

I have a few recordings by the Orpheus (marvelous) but have no idea how many discs in total. The popularity of Haydn in the recording studio is a recent phenomenon and few star conductors recorded anything but the usual suspects. Thank god for the HIP movement: all things Haydn exploded...in a good way 

Yes, I counted all of Lenny's recordings...although I didn't know he'd done 105 too (but that shouldn't count as a symphony anyway).

Sarge

[Sergeant Rock]

Lenny wins! Go New York!

I hate Columbia    They had the best Haydn band in the world in Cleveland but gave most of the recording assignments to New York. Boo! Hiss!

Sarge

[Gurn Blanston]

Here's my own playlist of PI/HIP Haydn symphonies.  I went for as much variety as possible, i.e. if I had multiple versions of the later symphonies I chose to represent a conductor less represented in earlier works.

I don't have the Harnoncourts in my iTunes Library, so they are not available for this playlist.  I also don't have any of the Derek Solomon recordings (although this may be rectified soon) and I there are no recordings (that I know about) on PI for Nos. 79, 80 and 81.  I might plug in Fischer there.

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For you, like me, this is a must have disk. Not only a very nice #80, but a really good fiddle concerto and a very decent #49 as well. So, that just leaves 79 & 81.... Hmmm.... 

[Karl Henning]

Yes, I counted all of Lenny's recordings...although I didn't know he'd done 105 too (but that shouldn't count as a symphony anyway).

I see your point, mon ami, although . . . it's there in the name, Sinfonia concertante.  I expect that if the title had been Concerto grosso (an anachronistic impossibility, to be sure), Hoboken had catalogued it as part of VII.

[Sergeant Rock]

I see your point, mon ami, although . . . it's there in the name, Sinfonia concertante.  I expect that if the title had been Concerto grosso (an anachronistic impossibility, to be sure), Hoboken had catalogued it as part of VII.

I'll add a footnote to my list then 

Sarge

[Sergeant Rock]

Orpheus 16?

If that's correct, I only have half their Haydn.

Sarge

[Karl Henning]

I'll add a footnote to my list then 

Sarge

And if you like footnotes half as much as I like footnotes . . . .

: )

[Scarpia]

If that's correct, I only have half their Haydn.

Sarge

Recount: 15

22, 44, 45, 48, 49, 53, 63, 69, 73, 77, 78, 79, 81, 91, 102
(that I found on Amazon)

[Wakefield]

Apparently the size of the task defeated most. As a nod to Don here, I will give tribute to Davies in that he did finish what he started! 

For those who are interested in PI numbers;

Hogwood       81
Goodman      60
Brüggen         42
Solomons      34
Harnoncourt  17 PI  13 MI = 30
Kuijkens         26
Pinnock          22
Weil               21
Minkowski      12

Then there are a dozen or more with fewer than 10.

Not sure if anyone could do this with MI versions (or would!) Certainly I can't.

I have noticed there is  a third group: Harnoncourt and Norrington have recorded this music using both PI and MI.

I mean: two directors form a new group. 

[DavidRoss]

I have noticed there is  a third group: Harnoncourt and Norrington have recorded this music using both PI and MI.

I mean: two directors form a new group. 

Hasn't Norrington just done the London 12?

[Wakefield]

Hasn't Norrington just done the London 12?

Yes, but he had partially recorded  the same set of symphonies (99-104) with his PI band (the London Classical Players):

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[Sergeant Rock]

Recount: 15

22, 44, 45, 48, 49, 53, 63, 69, 73, 77, 78, 79, 81, 91, 102
(that I found on Amazon)

They've also recorded 80...so the count is back up to 16:




Sarge

[Gurn Blanston]

Yes, but he had partially recorded  the same set of symphonies (99-104) with his PI band (the London Classical Players):

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These are the ones I have (the single disks of them, anyway). I don't know anything about the MI ones except that they exist.  I had Harnoncourt in the both groups, but forgot Norrington because he was in the 'less than 10' PI group...