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Re: Insights, Snippets, Quotes, Epiphanies & All That Sort of Things
« Reply #800 on: March 02, 2020, 11:00:17 AM »
Ok so this test must be bogus then.  ;D

Of course it is. Think about it: on what scientific and logic basis would someone who prefers Tchaikovsky to Chopin be more intelligent than someone who prefers Chopin to Tchaikovsky? Or someone who can identify a theorbo because of a niche interest in music than someone who can't because not interested in that type of music?
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« Reply #801 on: March 02, 2020, 11:11:58 AM »
Of course it is. Think about it: on what scientific and logic basis would someone who prefers Tchaikovsky to Chopin be more intelligent than someone who prefers Chopin to Tchaikovsky? Or someone who can identify a theorbo because of a niche interest in music than someone who can't because not interested in that type of music?
There is none... That's why I was wondering how it could have been so close to me lol.

Probably studying music helped my score, but... was that thing a baroque cello? I was thinking cello at first but then noticed it wasn't exactly. Is there a such thing as baroque cello? Knew it couldn't be viola da gamba cause violas don't need a stand...
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« Reply #802 on: March 02, 2020, 11:26:39 AM »
Of course it is. Think about it: on what scientific and logic basis would someone who prefers Tchaikovsky to Chopin be more intelligent than someone who prefers Chopin to Tchaikovsky? Or someone who can identify a theorbo because of a niche interest in music than someone who can't because not interested in that type of music?

I took it as trying to indicate tendencies to intellectualize versus emotionalize.

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Ok so this test must be bogus then.  ;D

Is it normal to fall over adulthood? You didn't smoke pot for years, did you?

If it is normal, now wishing I knew my score as a kid because since we are about the same score today then maybe it was that high before? (side note: I'm not a pot smoker but it supposedly can reduce your score a little over time though I'm a bit skeptical of how they did the study on this).

Sooo i wonder if the racing thoughts while trying to fall asleep is truly caused by biological clock or just an overpowered brain? There's so many downsides to this... and causes issues. Last week was pretty bad due to my inability to wake up early.

What is your natural bedtime/wake time?

I think it's normal to find that IQ scores have little relationship to success in life, for almost any definition of "success in life".

Wake up time between 7 and 8 AM, bedtime just before midnight.
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« Reply #803 on: March 02, 2020, 01:10:52 PM »
Wake up time between 7 and 8 AM, bedtime just before midnight.
Assuming this is without an alarm clock...

not a night owl then. Must be nice to be on the same page as most people.

There was supposed to be some correlation between this and IQ but probably just a general weak correlation or maybe there just isn't...

But yeah you're right that other factors can play a bigger role... like biological clock.

Would be nice to not get waves of energy at night and finally start to feel sleepy after 1 AM. Would be nicer though if standard work hours were much later.
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« Reply #804 on: March 02, 2020, 01:19:01 PM »
I took it as trying to indicate tendencies to intellectualize versus emotionalize.

And yet choosing Handel over Bach increased my score. :D

And neither Chopin nor Tchaikovsky are particularly intellectual to my ears. They're both as emotional as it gets and they're both among my favorites and it's all as it should be: I have little use, if at all, for intellectual(ized) music.

was that thing a baroque cello? I was thinking cello at first but then noticed it wasn't exactly. Is there a such thing as baroque cello? Knew it couldn't be viola da gamba cause violas don't need a stand...

I was torn between viola da gamba and viola da spalla but in the end I chose the former: the number of strings matched and the size was a bit too large for the latter, though I'm not sure I was right.

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« Reply #805 on: March 02, 2020, 02:00:01 PM »
I got 119 as well...but suppose if there had been an option not to have to choose between Chopin and Tchaikovsky, my score would have gone through the roof  :D

But, most unfortunately, that alleged IQ of 119 was not enough for me to find that other quiz (the one about one’s age) you guys are talking about....  ::)
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« Reply #806 on: March 02, 2020, 02:07:47 PM »
I got 119 as well...but suppose if there had been an option not to have to choose between Chopin and Tchaikovsky, my score would have gone through the roof  :D

The option was between Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Clara Schumann and Puccini, so you could have eschewed both of them, actually.  ;D

I chose Tchaikovsky over Chopin for the same reason I choose Mozart over Schubert. I'm absolutely sure you can guess it alright.

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But, most unfortunately, that alleged IQ if 119 was not enough for me to find that other quiz (the one about one’s age) you guys are talking about....  ::)

https://www.classicfm.com/lifestyle/quizzes/when-you-were-born-music-tastes/
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« Reply #807 on: March 02, 2020, 02:10:47 PM »
The option was between Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Clara Schumann and Puccini, so you could have eschewed both of them, actually.  ;D

I chose Tchaikovsky over Chopin for the same reason I choose Mozart over Schubert. I'm absolutely sure you can guess it alright.
Then it seems that an IQ of 119 is compatible with a really short memory span.  ;D I had chosen Puccini... :-[

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Thanks... :)

EDIT: Took the “age guesser”, and it yielded 1962 (just off by one year....quite amazing).  ;D
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Re: Insights, Snippets, Quotes, Epiphanies & All That Sort of Things
« Reply #808 on: March 02, 2020, 02:25:19 PM »
I also got 119, never took an IQ test but I'd expect to be in the 120s (i.e. between 1 and 2 standard deviations above average) because of some proxies, so that's close enoough. But the test is very silly, obviously. This starts with the very first question because an intelligent person would usually prefer silence for focussed work, not background music.
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« Reply #809 on: March 02, 2020, 02:27:56 PM »
For the age test I got 1987. I was born in 1987.
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« Reply #810 on: March 02, 2020, 06:33:14 PM »
Personal observation: the more a guy is "smiley" the more likely he is to be gay. Likewise, the less so, the less likely.

There are plenty of exceptions to this, of course. But seems to be a rule of thumb.

And today this observation was proven by one extra person. Apparently my gaydar really does work sometimes.

(actually the opposite scenario reminds me of when this one old lady at church used to sarcastically refer to me as "smiley" due to not being so friendly... ugh lol)  :P 

but what does this imply here... regular dudes are hardwired to be miserable?  :-X :-\

edit: by "smiley" i mean there's different types of it...
like if anyone watches Mark Wiens, that is someone who just never stops smiling, yet you never get secretly gay vibes from him, just someone who is always excited about something (all of the food, of course). But other people... you just know... how to break it down... they look at everyone like they are a cute puppy or something. Very high on the agreeableness personality trait, so really easy to treat them as a friend.
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« Reply #811 on: March 03, 2020, 05:33:09 AM »
Tbh, I couldn't care less about my IQ.
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« Reply #812 on: March 03, 2020, 08:36:07 AM »

     I tried to do "low IQ". For every question I gave what I thought was the wrong answer. It came out at 125. The test is rigged so it won't let me be a moron.
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« Reply #813 on: March 18, 2020, 03:26:35 PM »
Another one of those silly online guizzes I'm sharing. It's Tony Robbins, as much as that stuff is dumb garbage, the results are interesting. And I'm wondering- is it just two types of results?

Can someone else take it and let me know? It's only a few questions...

https://core.tonyrobbins.com/gender-quotient-4/


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YOUR LEADING ENERGY IS

MASCULINE

SHARE YOUR RESULTS
SHARE YOUR RESULTS
Regardless of gender, we all contain both masculine and feminine energy. Your leading energy reflects your inner nature and values. Because of this, there are women who have masculine leading energy just as there are men who have feminine leading energy. Understanding your leading energy, or core energy, is necessary to align yourself – or else you will be unhappy no matter how much you succeed.


THE MASCULINE ENERGY
The masculine energy focuses on one task or issue at a time. While the feminine is taking in everything at once, the masculine directs is able to let go of everything and direct all attention towards a singular focus. It’s about total concentration. When the masculine energy sees or encounters a problem, the sole goal is to find a solution. The masculine energy is analytical, impatient, assertive and logical. While the feminine is about being, the masculine is about doing. And it is about moving with a purpose, and taking action. The masculine energy wants to hunt, pursue and chase. The masculine energy wants to be needed.

IN A RELATIONSHIP
What makes a relationship work is having things in common. But what makes a relationship passionate is having things that are different – not different values, but different energies. This is what creates sparks in the relationship. This is where the electricity comes from. So if you are masculine in your core, then you will find commonality with another masculine energy, but you will find passion with feminine energy. When most people are stressed or tired, they put on the mask of the opposite energy. Most men, for example, who are masculine at their core, will put on a feminine mask. It is a protection mechanism. But the moment this happens, there is no possibility for romance. And to make matters worse, if you are with a feminine energy, it will only make matters worse, causing friction and disconnection.

WHAT TO WATCH OUT FOR
There are three triggers that will cause a masculine energy to adopt a feminine mask: feeling criticized, feeling controlled or feeling closed off to. Criticism is like kryptonite to a masculine energy. Rather, masculine energy feeds and thrives off of appreciation. They need to be admired and praised. The masculine energy also shutters at the very thought of being controlled. If a man who is masculine at his core feels controlled, he will hate himself and then his partner will hate him and become fearful of him. The masculine energy does not like to feel closed off to. A man with a masculine core, for example, wants the presence of a feminine energy. It is starving for it. But when that is taken away, the masculine energy is replaced with a feminine energy. And in turn, the woman will not feel protected or safe.




Thread relevant, the "feminine mask" thing might be quite an interesting insight.
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« Reply #814 on: April 16, 2020, 07:08:19 AM »
(About a teenager who died at 17 of consumption)

If his life ended too early and did not assume the form of a Beethoven symphony because he had not endured much suffering or many harsh experiences or gone through wild phases, it could still be considered a small Haydn chamber concerto, and you cannot say such a thing about many people's lives. --- Hermann Hesse, The Beautiful Dream



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« Reply #815 on: May 24, 2020, 07:57:48 PM »
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Things
by Jorge Luis Borges (Translated, from the Spanish, by Stephen Kessler)

My cane, my pocket change, this ring of keys,
The obedient lock, the belated notes
The few days left to me will not find time
To read, the deck of cards, the tabletop,
A book, and crushed in its pages the withered
Violet, monument to an afternoon
Undoubtedly unforgettable, now forgotten,
The mirror in the west where a red sunrise
Blazes its illusion. How many things,
Files, doorsills, atlases, wine glasses, nails,
Serve us like slaves who never say a word,
Blind and so mysteriously reserved.
They will endure beyond our vanishing;
And they will never know that we have gone.

Today, I recalled this poem after reading a review on Amazon. It was a nice review of "The Brandenburgs" played by the Boston Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Charles Munch (RCA Living Stereo). Written on January 18 (day of my birthday, coincidentally), in 2004, by a person who defined himself as a "retired."

I searched for other reviews by him, being the last one written in December 2018. Is he still alive?

We – all of us – are writing messages in a bottle. :)
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« Reply #816 on: May 24, 2020, 08:09:50 PM »
I think it's normal to find that IQ scores have little relationship to success in life, for almost any definition of "success in life".
Ted Kaczynski has an IQ of 167 or so. Certainly didn’t turn out successful but maybe his intellect prevented that?
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« Reply #817 on: June 19, 2020, 07:29:34 AM »
'There is praise and blame, loss and gain, pleasure and pain, fame and disrepute - did you think this would not happen to you?'

(Buddhist tradition)

I love that quotation.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).