Opposites!

Started by Brian, January 06, 2013, 12:59:03 PM

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Brian

Sometimes I like to consider, together, two pieces of music which feel like complete opposites. For instance, I often dream of a concert pairing Lutoslawski's Concerto for Orchestra and Vaughan Williams's Fifth Symphony, because they seem to be more or less diametrically opposed in every way - musical language, emotional impact, level of "incident", even dynamics and tempos. I also think of the third movement from Glass's Third Symphony as a sort of "dark energy" or "dark matter" rewrite of Pachelbel's Canon.

Are you fascinated by opposites in music? Are there works you enjoy pairing because of the contrast? What do you think are the classical "yin/yang"?

0:) >:D

Karl Henning

Stravinsky, Threni + Duruflé, Requiem

I suppose yet sharper would be:

Stravinsky, Threni + Scarlatti, Stabat Mater
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

North Star

Quote from: karlhenning on January 06, 2013, 03:00:01 PM
Stravinsky, Threni + Duruflé, Requiem

I suppose yet sharper would be:

Stravinsky, Threni + Scarlatti, Stabat Mater


Which Scarlatti did you have in mind, Karl?

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TheGSMoeller

As in (sticking with RVW) A Sea Symphony and Ives Symphony No.4?
Written just a few years apart, both performed using a choir and large orchestras, utilizing a four-movement structure, but definitely world's apart when discussing their respective musical languages.

Gurn Blanston

Like sticking with one composer for my contrasts, and even more, with one opus (which it was, despite the numbering system):

Mozart - String Quintet in C K 515 & String Quintet in g - K 516. Opposite poles I should say. :)

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Lake Swan

Oh, like Chopin and Cannibal Corpse.  ;D

Johnll

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on January 06, 2013, 03:41:53 PM
As in (sticking with RVW) A Sea Symphony and Ives Symphony No.4?
Written just a few years apart, both performed using a choir and large orchestras, utilizing a four-movement structure, but definitely world's apart when discussing their respective musical languages.
I would never have thought of it myself, but that nails it.

Opus106

Quote from: Brian on January 06, 2013, 12:59:03 PM
a sort of "dark energy" or "dark matter" rewrite

The what now? ;D
Regards,
Navneeth

Florestan

There is a Fantasy by Lekeu (can't remember it exactly) which starts only with a few strings, other instruments are added as the music unfolds and ends in a tutti. That should make a nice contrast to Haydn's Farewell.   :)
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Opus106

Quote from: Florestan on January 07, 2013, 12:53:03 AM
There is a Fantasy by Lekeu (can't remember it exactly) which starts only with a few strings, other instruments are added as the music unfolds and ends in a tutti. That should make a nice contrast to Haydn's Farewell.   :)

Bolero! (Nice idea, BTW. :))
Regards,
Navneeth

Florestan

"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Florestan

How about an operatic recital featuring, in turn, excerpts from Rossini and Wagner?  Say, the overture of La gazza ladra followed by the prelude to Parsifal, and Largo al factotum followed by O du mein Holder Abendstern;D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

val

Beethoven's 4th and 5th Symphonies.

Or Wagner, Tristan und Isolde and the Meistersinger.

Or Verdi Otello and Falstaff.

Or Enescu's Oedipe and Stravinsky's "Edipus Rex".

Karl Henning

This thread is a fun romp through the reflection that there are so many axes of opposition which might be invoked.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

North Star

Quote from: karlhenning on January 07, 2013, 02:58:09 AM
This thread is a fun romp through the reflection that there are so many axes of opposition which might be invoked.

This is a nice pair of opposites, too:
Quote from: North Star on January 06, 2013, 03:10:07 PM
Which Scarlatti did you have in mind, Karl?

http://www.youtube.com/v/sgasIgm5KYo  http://www.youtube.com/v/BT88xeb5xWM
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stingo

MAHLER Symphony No. 8
CAGE 4'33

Brian

Has anybody done a recital alternating between Ligeti etudes and Scarlatti sonatas? I feel like that would be an interesting juxtaposition.

Quote from: stingo on January 09, 2013, 07:05:09 AM
MAHLER Symphony No. 8
CAGE 4'33

BRIAN Symphony No. 1 "Gothic"
CAGE 4'33"

rickardg

Quote from: stingo on January 09, 2013, 07:05:09 AM
MAHLER Symphony No. 8
CAGE 4'33

Didn't Mahler leave room for the Cage piece between the first and second movement of the Symphony No. 2 ?

:-)