My country, Argentina, sucks.

[m_gigena]

Carlos - I was waiting for you to 'chime into' this thread - I've been only to Colombia, but being a 'wine enthusiast' would love to visit the wine areas of Chile & Argentina (Mendoza Vly for the latter, of course) - I guess we get a very one-sided opinion of these countries based on our interests - I've been loving the wines from Argentina, but have not been paying as much attention to the politics & the people - Manuel & you really portray a rather sad 'state of affairs' there - any hope for change?  If so, what might be needed?  Just very interested - don't want to see those Mendoza wines stop shipping here? Thanks - Dave 

Chile is as dirty as Argentina. Barrick discovered gold and silver below three inmense glaciars in the Andes and they are about to start a project, called Pascual Lama, to extract the metal. The only problem is they have to melt part of the glaciars to dig in there, and planned to move others through the desert of Atacama relocating the ice masses where they don't disturb excavations. They somehow foresee some part of the ice will be lost during the trip... they must be enviromental geniouses.

[greg]

so if i get there i might not be able to hike through glaciers?.....

[m_gigena]

so if i get there i might not be able to hike through glaciers?.....

Not on those fate located above gold and silver, but you can still come to Argentina and walk over Perito Moreno.

[mahlertitan]

I can't imagine Argentina to be worse than China; I have been to some rural villages in China, the pollution is horrible, it's like you are breathing in sand and waste, i went to a town where the entire place smelled like pesticide, it was horrible.

I hope that the Air is good in Argentina, at least in Buenos Aires.

[Kullervo]

I hope that the Air is good in Argentina, at least in Buenos Aires.

Could you imagine a city being called "Good Air" in the US? It sounds like some sort of aerosol spray.

[M forever]

Could you imagine a city being called "Good Air" in the US?

Sure. There are tons of cities in the US with names like "Clear Spring" or similar, and in many other places all over the world.

[m_gigena]

I hope that the Air is good in Argentina, at least in Buenos Aires.

Winds from the Pacific Ocean pushes our pollution to the Atlantic, so this is a breathable country.

Could you imagine a city being called "Good Air" in the US? It sounds like some sort of aerosol spray.

In its first foundation in 1536 the city was named "Nuestra Señora del Buen Ayre (Aire)". The name somehow changed with the time.

[greg]

I can't imagine Argentina to be worse than China; I have been to some rural villages in China, the pollution is horrible, it's like you are breathing in sand and waste, i went to a town where the entire place smelled like pesticide, it was horrible.

I hope that the Air is good in Argentina, at least in Buenos Aires.

i wonder if they get used to it? (like they can't smell it anymore)
sometimes there's places you drive by on the road and they smell like the sewer, for probably a half a mile. Actually, when I used to ride the school bus, several places and one place was a bus stop where kids got off. I always wondered if the smell bothered them as much as it did everyone else.

[M forever]

In its first foundation in 1536 the city was named "Nuestra Señora del Buen Ayre (Aire)". The name somehow changed with the time.

Kind of like "El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Angeles del Río de Porciúncula". Now more widely known as "L.A."

[m_gigena]

Kind of like "El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Angeles del Río de Porciúncula". Now more widely known as "L.A."

LOL. That's new to me.

We shouldn't let spanish speakers name places.

[Iconito]

We shouldn't let spanish speakers name places.

[sidoze]

Baptista just scored a beautiful goal. Why the hell couldn't he do that last season?

[M forever]

At the first look, it seems like world openness when an English guy supports Latin football. At the second look, considering the state of football in England, it becomes clear it's just out of despair.

[sidoze]

At the first look, it seems like world openness when an English guy supports Latin football. At the second look, considering the state of football in England, it becomes clear it's just out of despair.

The state of football in England is second to none. The Premier League is generally considered the most exciting league in the world. If you're talking about national sides, then England are crap, no doubt. But the league here is wonderful, a lot better than this current Brazil/Argentina game, that's for sure.

[mahlertitan]

Argentina sucked, atleast during the game with Brazil at copa america final, where they lost 0:3

[m_gigena]

Argentina sucked, atleast during the game with Brazil at copa america final, where they lost 0:3

Did we lose?

LOL, I suppose that's why the afternoon was so quiet.

[m_gigena]

The Government promises to sincerate the CPI after October

The Consumer Price Index (CPI, or IPC in spanish) elaborated by the National Institute of Statistics and Censuses (Indec) will be transparent, but not before October. The head of Cabinet, Alberto Fernandez, promised it today to the head of the CTA (an important sindicate here), which he received today in the House of Government.

The head of the ministers, who wants no indicator to affect the electoral possibilities of the first lady, Cristina Fernandez, assured, according to sources of the Indec, that will diagram a new IPC, but just " on october 29th" , that is to say, passed the presidential elections.

Since last February, the technicians of the Indec come denouncing that the secretary of Domestic Trade, Guillermo Moreno, manipulates the official data of the IPC elaborated by the Indec through the inspector in the organism designated by him, Beatriz Paglieri.

[david johnson]

If everyone that disliked Bush simply left the country, we'd have an enormous "brain drain" — the country would plummet even further into the depths of ignorance.

nah.  if anti-bush leaguers were that smart, they'd be runinng things anyway. 

dj

[Haffner]

But on the bright side ......... you're not stuck with George W. Bush (as we are) ...........

Or in a country that voted him into office. Twice.

[Gabriel]

South America is an extention of the messed-up West and like the Incas, Aztecs, Mayas and Olmecs before them is the biggest dead-end in history. They also need to stop speaking that pathetic Spanish language that keeps their thinking down.

What a nonsense, unworthy even of an informal thread like this one. I prefer not to write anything more, because with these scarce two lines it is already too much to honour yours, Sean.

Greg, even if Pascua Lama comes to reality in a near future, you can still have lots of wonderful glaciers in the south of Chile and Argentina. The problem is that you must hurry up: no need of a mining project to help global warming to destroy in a close future most of them.