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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140700 on: August 23, 2019, 01:04:57 PM »
Let me say this about the recordings with the symphonies of Moyzes, first of all his music is highly original and let me say it, of great beauty. Furthermore there is nothing wrong with the performances or recordings, they are uniformly excellent. And I am listening on state of the Art equipment, so I should hear it if it were bad recordings, or even so so. And to wave away so easily the recordings of the Lajtha and Malipiero symphonies, has me in the curtains. With all due respect there is also absolutely nothing wrong with the sound and performances of these composers. We can argue whether you like the music or not, but not about the quality of the recordings for those are very good.  The light is most favourable on the Marco Polo labels, thank you!

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140701 on: August 23, 2019, 01:10:01 PM »
I think the Sixth is the highlight of Järvi's cycle.


I think the Sixth is the highlight of Prokofiev's cycle.  ;)

The case can be made.
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140702 on: August 23, 2019, 01:14:41 PM »
Sometimes people dislike a thing you like 8)

Its not like or dislike, the statements of the sound or the quality of the orchestras are not valid.

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140703 on: August 23, 2019, 01:17:53 PM »
Right there with both of you... Berlioz fits right in with so many composers I'm fond of but outside of the Symphony Fantastique (and even that drags in spots), I just cannot get into his music ... I must've listened to Harold In Italy and Romeo and Juliet 100 times each and... nothing

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« Reply #140704 on: August 23, 2019, 01:19:58 PM »
Le damnation de Faust? L'enfance du Christ?

Personally, I shouldn't expect Harold en Italie to hold up for 100 hearings 8)
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140705 on: August 23, 2019, 01:22:31 PM »


A most interesting film score. Having listened to his Hamlet Op. 32 the other day, this version for film is even deeper and psychological. I'm realizing Shostakovich wrote many more stunning orchestral works besides the most usual ones. It's certainly refreshing, and he still remains as one of my top 10 favorite composers ever.

Brilliant. And, you owe it to yourself to see the Kozintsev film.
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140706 on: August 23, 2019, 01:23:30 PM »
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140707 on: August 23, 2019, 01:24:57 PM »
The only thing I play relatively regularly is Le Nuits d'Ete. Sublime.

That it is!
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140708 on: August 23, 2019, 01:26:10 PM »
I was delighted this morning to hear composer Langgaard for the first time; thoroughly enjoyed his Romantic first symphony (Dausgaard).

Really looking forward to investigating this composer more thoroughly.

I've also had fun catching up wiiiiiiiiith...SCRIABIN!

Excellent!
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140709 on: August 23, 2019, 01:33:09 PM »
Having a Sibelian afternoon...

Symphonies 1 & 2, Blomstedt


Violin Concerto, Hahn


Finlandia, Karelia Suite, Ashkenazy


Love the Blomstedt/SFSO set!
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140710 on: August 23, 2019, 01:40:51 PM »
TD:
LvB
Triple Concerto, Op.56
Rondo in B-flat, WoO6

Aimard
Zehetmair
Hagen
C.O.E.
Harnoncourt
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140711 on: August 23, 2019, 01:47:46 PM »
Its not like or dislike, the statements of the sound or the quality of the orchestras are not valid.

He's not exactly criticizing the Vienna Philharmonic... The SRSO is a solid, mid-level orchestra but I've heard some occasionally dodgy ensemble playing from them ... I don't know the recording being argued about, mind you ... I just find your rigid insistence and anger a bit curious
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140712 on: August 23, 2019, 01:49:46 PM »
Personally, I shouldn't expect Harold en Italie to hold up for 100 hearings 8)

 ;D

I can't even pinpoint what I don't like about Berlioz, honestly... but I can't find anything that I really do like, either for whatever reason
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140713 on: August 23, 2019, 02:11:21 PM »
Exuberant playing and very good, if a bit distant, sound.




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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140714 on: August 23, 2019, 02:35:39 PM »
Thoughts?

[Re WAM Symphonies 1-5]

Wolfgang was a good student. Were WAM's name not attached to them they would undoubtedly have disappeared into the archepiscopal archives, remaining forever unknown. And if they were to disappear, frankly, it would be no great loss. They make good background music.

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140715 on: August 23, 2019, 03:34:33 PM »
[Re WAM Symphonies 1-5]

Wolfgang was a good student. Were WAM's name not attached to them they would undoubtedly have disappeared into the archepiscopal archives, remaining forever unknown. And if they were to disappear, frankly, it would be no great loss. They make good background music.

Agreed.
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140716 on: August 23, 2019, 04:07:54 PM »


Entirely tonal and ‘easy’ works by Tamberg. Joanna tentata (1971) is a suite in 8 movements culled by the composer from his ballet based on the Devils of Loudun affair. It is based on the polish novel by Iwaszkiewicz, not on the Aldous Huxley story, which in turn would become the basis for Penderecki’s opera and Ken Russell’s flamboyant film. This is a much more reflective, intimate take on the possessed nuns’ story. Iwaszkiewicz’ novel was also adapted for the screen by Jerzy Kawalerowicz in 1961, some 10 years before the Tamberg ballet. I saw it many years ago. A psychological drama influenced by Dreyer. Beautiful. Back to the music: it would be nice to have the whole thing on DVD. The suite offers some nice musical scene painting, but continuity suffers.

The Concerto grosso is great fun. Scored for wind quintet (incl. an alto saxophone), piano, percussion and strings, its premiere in 1956 earned the composer his first big accolade, including an important festival’s gold medal. The saxophone, a ‘decadent’ instrument, had been banned by cultural authorities in 1949. Tamberg’s daring paid off, inspiring him to compose a really bold and original score. His next composition would feature three saxophones! The concerto grosso title was not his original idea. He simply composed a work that played to the strengths of the commissioning ensemble and found out such a work was close to the concerto grosso form. Bloch and Schnittke also composed works in that vein. Chronologically, Tamberg’s work comes between these two composers’.

The Symphonic Dances are not quite as fetching. An agreeable pastime nonetheless. Overall this is a nice disc, but totally different from that containing the first two symphonies and the violin concerto. It’s a bit like going from Shostakovich’s 8th symphony to his 9th, or from Prokofiev’s 3rd to his 7th. More power to him for using such diverse outlets to his creativity.

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140717 on: August 23, 2019, 04:42:17 PM »


Symphony no 9 just finished. In the last week I listened to nos 2, 4, 7, 8 and now 9.

Again a mixed batch, but overall a highly successful one. I thought the 7th too heavy-handed (the first movement is almost a minute and a half longer than Böhm’s WP, and Böhm is not exactly a speed merchant). The 8th is fine, the 4th very much so, while the 2nd is a smashing success, one of the very finest I’ve ever heard. It’s not zippy, but bold to the point of effrontery, with mean timpani, sharp accents and a weighty but trenchant sound. Would that the 7th had been given that treatment.

In the 9th Blomstedt again puts the timpani in charge of underlining the rythmic thrust with big, sharp attacks, even as the tempi are not exactly swift. This is a big, brawny reading. The finale erupts mightlily. Theo Adam’s solo is startlingly stentorian. What an outburst ! This is a mean Wotan sending his walkyries daughters galloping on their horsies. Tenor Peter Schreier sounds puny in comparison, but he invests his words with meaning and sings well. How many times did he do the 9th symphony ? 10 times ? Blomstedt beats the movement black and blue. To be honest it’s not my ideal for a perfect 9th, but it certainly is an imposing, triumphant one. The sound is superb - the balance between chorus and orchestra couldn’t be bettered. Their Gotterfunkens at the end are not drowned under the orchestra. Well done.

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140719 on: August 23, 2019, 05:10:08 PM »


Symphony no 9 just finished. In the last week I listened to nos 2, 4, 7, 8 and now 9.

Again a mixed batch, but overall a highly successful one. I thought the 7th too heavy-handed (the first movement is almost a minute and a half longer than Böhm’s WP, and Böhm is not exactly a speed merchant). The 8th is fine, the 4th very much so, while the 2nd is a smashing success, one of the very finest I’ve ever heard. It’s not zippy, but bold to the point of effrontery, with mean timpani, sharp accents and a weighty but trenchant sound. Would that the 7th had been given that treatment.

In the 9th Blomstedt again puts the timpani in charge of underlining the rythmic thrust with big, sharp attacks, even as the tempi are not exactly swift. This is a big, brawny reading. The finale erupts mightlily. Theo Adam’s solo is startlingly stentorian. What an outburst ! This is a mean Wotan sending his walkyries daughters galloping on their horsies. Tenor Peter Schreier sounds puny in comparison, but he invests his words with meaning and sings well. How many times did he do the 9th symphony ? 10 times ? Blomstedt beats the movement black and blue. To be honest it’s not my ideal for a perfect 9th, but it certainly is an imposing, triumphant one. The sound is superb - the balance between chorus and orchestra couldn’t be bettered. Their Gotterfunkens at the end are not drowned under the orchestra. Well done.

Thanks for this overview... I've had this set for years, but haven't listened to it in ages.  Time for a revisit, I think.  :)
The man that hath no music in himself,
Nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds,
Is fit for treasons, stratagems, and spoils.
The motions of his spirit are dull as night,
And his affections dark as Erebus.
Let no such man be trusted.

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