What are you listening to now?

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Zeus

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It seems to happen whenever I cut and paste.

I get weird line spacing issues as well. Definitely not WYSIWYG. Sometimes it takes as long to edit out the problems as to write original post.  Grrrr.  The curse of the newbie.
"There is no progress in art, any more than there is progress in making love. There are simply different ways of doing it." – Emmanuel Radnitzky (Man Ray)

PerfectWagnerite

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Quote from: Mirror Image on March 27, 2017, 03:31:02 PM
To the bolded text, let's ask Bruckner how feels about that comment. ;D I won't disagree with your general argument, but I will say that your comment feels rather more like it's describing your own shortcomings as a listener rather than Ives' shortcomings as a composer. Let's also remember that Ives never heard his music in a concert hall and he probably also thought his music was never going to be heard and, thankfully, this wasn't the case. So any kind of 'tidying up' as it were to his actual scores was definitely not in the picture. Anyway, I think the remarkable thing about Ives was his ability to create a highly individual soundscape, but, thankfully, it was a soundscape that actually did change and offer the listener something completely singular. One listen to his Concord Sonata or The Unanswered Question gives the listener an idea of the breadth of his style. A one-trick pony he was not and he's certainly one of the major 20th Century composers without a doubt in my mind.
Maybe.

What he did succeed is that he made his works pretty much "interpretation" proof as I have not heard a bad Ives recording (like you said there are few Ives performances, especially of his orchestral works). It really is hard to screw up the sound of "chaos" and then folk tunes blending together in different meters and keys. And the fact that a bunch of wrong notes can't be heard either doesn't hurt.

My favorite Ives' work is his 1st Symphony. To have written something like that at any age is remarkable. It is conventional yet sounds unique and not over-the-top like a lot of late Romantic works. Yet it remains wholly memorable and unequivocally demonstrated that should Ives decided to continue in this route he still would have been a remarkable composer. I don't think such a remarkable piece of American symphony exists.

Zeus

Cavalieri: Rappresentatione di anima et di corpo


"There is no progress in art, any more than there is progress in making love. There are simply different ways of doing it." – Emmanuel Radnitzky (Man Ray)

Mirror Image

Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on March 27, 2017, 04:52:29 PM
Maybe.

My favorite Ives' work is his 1st Symphony. To have written something like that at any age is remarkable. It is conventional yet sounds unique and not over-the-top like a lot of late Romantic works. Yet it remains wholly memorable. I don't think such a remarkable piece of American symphony exists.

To the bolded text, geez...::) . Okay, good day to you then. No need to carry this conversation any further.

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The most incredible Taras Bulba on record IMHO and BBC Music Magazine thought so too as this was their pick amongst a survey they conducted in their latest issue.

TheGSMoeller

Going through some Yoel Levi/Atlanta SO recordings. Their collaborations on Telarc are mostly great, quality performances in spectacular sound. Starting with this Hindemith disc...

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Quote from: TheGSMoeller on March 27, 2017, 05:01:12 PM
Going through some Yoel Levi/Atlanta SO recordings. Their collaborations on Telarc are mostly great, quality performances in spectacular sound. Starting with this Hindemith disc...

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That Yoel Levi Hindemith recording remains a favorite as it was my introduction to the composer and hearing it performed by our home band makes it even more special. Under Levi, the Atlanta SO never sounded any better IMHO.

Ken B

Quote from: Mahlerian on March 27, 2017, 12:27:18 PM
Beethoven: String Quartet No. 7 in F "Razumovsky" Op. 59 No. 1
Alban Berg Quartet
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That might be my favorite cycle.

TD Bach, cantatas, Gardiner disc 37

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Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on March 27, 2017, 04:52:29 PMWhat he did succeed is that he made his works pretty much "interpretation" proof as I have not heard a bad Ives recording (like you said there are few Ives performances, especially of his orchestral works). It really is hard to screw up the sound of "chaos" and then folk tunes blending together in different meters and keys. And the fact that a bunch of wrong notes can't be heard either doesn't hurt.

Actually, there are bad Ives recordings believe it or not. I've recently been rather underwhelmed by Andrew Davis' traversal on the Chandos label. The sound of the recordings are first-rate, but I've never heard such dull performances of this music in all of the recordings I own. He just doesn't get this music IMHO. The reviews he's garnered seem pretty favorable, but I like my Ives much more unhinged.

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: Mirror Image on March 27, 2017, 05:03:29 PM
That Yoel Levi Hindemith recording remains a favorite as it was my introduction to the composer and hearing it performed by our home band makes it even more special. Under Levi, the Atlanta SO never sounded any better IMHO.

I would not argue. Although I was not in Atlanta during Levi's tenure, his recordings offer enough evidence of this.

Their disc of Barber music featuring Knoxville and the Essays is also really good.

Mirror Image

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on March 27, 2017, 05:10:27 PM
I would not argue. Although I was not in Atlanta during Levi's tenure, his recordings offer enough evidence of this.

Their disc of Barber music featuring Knoxville and the Essays is also really good.

Indeed, Greg,

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Now here's an Ivesian who gets my deep respect:





Listening to Two Contemplations: Central Park in the Dark and The Unanswered Question. Exemplary performances from Lenny.

Todd




Skrowaczewski's Ninth.  Another outstanding performance.  Skrowaczewski keeps tempi swift and the music moves forward at all times.  He generates some notable intensity.  The wind playing is especially noteworthy, hyper-detailed and clean.  The string playing in the Scherzo is superb.  All that written, I probably prefer the slightly heftier reading by Gielen.  Indeed, of the three cycles devoured this year, I'd say but it's definitely Gielen overall at this point, save for Skrowaczewski's hat trick of the Fifth, Sixth, and Seventh.  Time to see if Danny Boy's latest can compete with the other old guys.
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Now:



Listening to The Eternal Gospel in a wholly satisfactory selection of choral works from this Czech master.

André

Rare but interesting repertoire, beautiful artistry from the players.




Kontrapunctus

Wonderfully played and recorded.


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Now Ancerl's smoking performance of Sinfonietta from this recording:



This is so much better than Neumann's who just sounds too soft-edged and doesn't really let the music rip like it should. This Ancerl is more along the lines of Mackerras' with the Wiener Philharmoniker on Decca, but obviously with a much more idiomatic orchestra. I'm certainly not saying the Neumann isn't without merit as it's obviously a well-played performance, but Ancerl really understands the wildness of this work and that it should be treated with much more abandon.

SymphonicAddict

Atterberg: Symphony for strings, op. 53

Camerata Nordica, Ulf Wallin

What a beautiful work! It's like the 'Cinderella' among his symphonies.

SimonNZ



Messiaen's Catalogue d'oiseaux - Anatol Ugorski, piano

Que

Morning listening:

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GioCar

Early morning listening



Peter Eötvös: Seven

I love that concerto. And Kopatchinskaja is terriffic.