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Mahlerian

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on December 01, 2017, 05:40:00 PM
Hmm... actually I think that's a good way of describing Schonberg's music.  Only the conversation  is more like an argument, and a strenous one at that. My ears tell me he's much more dissonant than Bartok and usually more dissonant than Stravinsky.

I think the main thing that provokes this response (more dissonant than Bartok or Stravinsky) is the density of Schoenberg's music.  It tends to have many more contrapuntal ideas and simultaneous parts, often with differing rhythmic phrasing (i.e. they don't begin and/or end together), this can give an impression of disjointedness or conflict, though that's not necessarily the way it sounds to me.

In terms of harmony, Bartok is much fonder of minor seconds and clusters, for instance.  Schoenberg pretty much never uses cluster chords, and prefers major sevenths/minor ninths to minor seconds (and thirds, sixths, and fourths to either).
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

Madiel

Schoenberg, String Quartet No.2

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I've no idea if this is a recommended version or not, just the one I picked off the streaming service. We shall see how it goes.
Nobody has to apologise for using their brain.

Daverz

Quote from: ørfeo on December 01, 2017, 06:09:35 PM
Schoenberg, String Quartet No.2

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I've no idea if this is a recommended version or not, just the one I picked off the streaming service. We shall see how it goes.

I really like Fred Sherry and friends in No. 4, but would like to hear this one as well.

Madiel

Quote from: Daverz on December 01, 2017, 06:31:24 PM
I really like Fred Sherry and friends in No. 4, but would like to hear this one as well.

I didn't spot a recording of No.2 from them. Maybe it's just the luck of the draw with search terms and metadata (a frequent issue with streaming services), but I saw a recording by them of Nos. 3 and 4, and No.1 coupled with Verklarte Nacht, but didn't see no.2

I expect it's around somewhere.
Nobody has to apologise for using their brain.

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Mahlerian

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Quote from: ørfeo on December 01, 2017, 06:37:23 PM
I didn't spot a recording of No.2 from them. Maybe it's just the luck of the draw with search terms and metadata (a frequent issue with streaming services), but I saw a recording by them of Nos. 3 and 4, and No.1 coupled with Verklarte Nacht, but didn't see no.2

I expect it's around somewhere.

It's on this disc.  I suspect the recording you pulled out is just as good, though, given the fine version of No. 4 I streamed from it a few weeks ago.

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(Speaking of which, anyone who thinks my discussion of Schoenberg's music above sounded gushingly laudatory would probably find Craft's booklet notes here downright hagiographic.)
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

Madiel

More Schoenberg streaming:

Three piano pieces, op.11 (Uchida)

Jane Grey, op.12/1 (Mitsuko Shirai, Harmut Hoell? Though I'm actually slightly doubtful about the metadata...)
Der velorene Haufen, op.12/2 (Cornelis Opthof, Glenn Gould)
Nobody has to apologise for using their brain.

Daverz

Quote from: Mahlerian on December 01, 2017, 06:51:26 PM
It's on this disc.  I suspect the recording you pulled out is just as good, though, given the fine version of No. 4 I streamed from it a few weeks ago.

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(Speaking of which, anyone who thinks my discussion of Schoenberg's music above sounded gushingly laudatory would probably find Craft's booklet notes here downright hagiographic.)

Found it by searching on "schoenberg 6"

You did it

Quote from: ørfeo on December 01, 2017, 06:59:09 PM
More Schoenberg streaming:

Three piano pieces, op.11 (Uchida)

Jane Grey, op.12/1 (Mitsuko Shirai, Harmut Hoell? Though I'm actually slightly doubtful about the metadata...)
Der velorene Haufen, op.12/2 (Cornelis Opthof, Glenn Gould)


Op 11 is so beautiful, that was a go-to piece for me at one point, helped me through a tough time  :(
To which I am thankful  :-*

amw

Quote from: ørfeo on December 01, 2017, 06:09:35 PM
Schoenberg, String Quartet No.2

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I've no idea if this is a recommended version or not, just the one I picked off the streaming service. We shall see how it goes.
It is good. My overall recommended version though would be this one:

Madiel

Quote from: amw on December 01, 2017, 08:48:23 PM
It is good. My overall recommended version though would be this one:


Noted for future reference (probably well into the future, Schoenberg is not high on the shopping list, but I keep my notes).
Nobody has to apologise for using their brain.

HIPster

On the radio KUSC)

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Wise words from Que:

Never waste a good reason for a purchase....  ;)

Wanderer


Mandryka

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Bram Beekman plays some early Bach preludes, BWV 1101 through to 1120 at St Jan's Cathedral in Hertogenbosch.

The church's website says the organ is tuned "ewenredig swenvend", it sounds very good, but what is it? Is it really equal temperament?

http://www.brabantorgel.nl/DenBosch-StJanKathedraal_frameset.html
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

amw



Newish release from Chief Justice John G. Roberts featuring an RLPO in very fine form.

You did it

Quote from: amw on December 01, 2017, 08:48:23 PM
It is good. My overall recommended version though would be this one:


I wish Schoeberg's SQ NO 4 would be programmed alongside Bartok's SQ no3/4

GioCar


Madiel

Various bits of Scriabin

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2 Mazurkas, op.40
Poeme tragique, op.34
Three pieces, op.45
Piano Sonata No.8, op.66

I really wish Scriabin's works weren't quite so fragmentary. I could even do with a few more 3-minute pieces, like the poeme which I like a lot. But a ridiculous number of them are over in 90 seconds or less.

And then you get to the sonatas, and they're superb.
Nobody has to apologise for using their brain.

Que

Morning listening:



Disc VIII: Lamentations and Contrafacta

Q

Mookalafalas

listening to LvB from this.  It's like doing tequila shots while polishing off an 8-ball.  Heady stuff.

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It's all good...