What are you listening to now?

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Todd




Disc seven.  Opp 95 and 130, with the revised ending and Op 133 tacked on as an extra track - that is, the proper way.  Op 95 is a bit slower than normal in all movements except the serioso third movement, which is quite vibrant.  The opening movement is slow-ish but most effective, while the final movement is very slow and dramatic until the coda.  Typically, I prefer more pep in this work, but the Koeckert deliver.  Op 130 starts off with the lighter feel of Op 127, to excellent effect.  The playing has depth when needed (Andante, Cavatina), but the Alla danza tedesca is sweet and the Allegro fun.  Here's great late Beethoven of a lighter sort.  The Grosse Fugue comes off a bit lighter and more relaxed than normal, and might work better as a closer in this style, but I still prefer the revised ending. 

Overall, the Koeckert cycle is really quite delightful.  Its ease and naturalness somewhat akin to the Vegh's makes it easy to listen to and enjoy, and if it doesn't displace my established favorites, I foresee it earning a spot with them after a few more years and listens.
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Baron Scarpia

Quote from: The One on January 27, 2018, 07:03:44 AM
Ergo, my immaturity :)

My young age and narrow-headedness were both detected and diagnosed here, in this very short period I've been posting, before,  so there really is no need to "feed" me...or, I follow this board for a while now and might be aware of who is who or what, just ignore me as I'm ignoring a few. No need for unrest in unknown domains.  0:)  :)

Ignoring a few, already?

If you are going to dish it out, you should be able to take it.

I guess I'm talking to a wall. You probably have me on ignore because I don't like the Quatuor Mosaïques. :)

Florestan

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on January 27, 2018, 06:26:52 AM
Chances are when we diverge in our appreciation, it is because our expectations differed. Better than interjecting ones own expectations is trying to apply some thought to what the original listeners might have been expecting.  The research and contemplation into that question repays itself many times over. :)

I don't interject anything in terms of expectations. If I like what I hear, fine. If not, fine as well. I am not the kind of person who spends a lot of time trying to figure out why I didn't like a particular recording, but moves on to the next.

The research into what the original listeners might have expected (and what the composers might have eexpected them to have expected) is very rewarding from the philosophical, aesthetical and historical point of views and I dabble in it quite a lot. When it comes to the practical experience of listening the music now and here, though, I confess my limitation: no amount of research can give me period ears --- I might be convinced intellectually anout the validity of this or that PI or HIP approach but I have no illusion whatsoever that how I hear it is how the original audience hear it. For instance, there is no way for me to actually, really experience how an audience who hadn't yet heard anything post-Beethoven reacted to Eroica, or how an audience who hadn't yet heard anything Beethoven reacted to Mozart's piano sonatas. And this is only one of the multiple variables coming into play. The belief that the latest and minutest reesearch can truly help one hearing the music of the past exactly the way the original audience heard it is illusory.
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

HIPster

Sounding mighty fine right now:

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:)
Wise words from Que:

Never waste a good reason for a purchase....  ;)

Baron Scarpia

Quote from: Todd on January 27, 2018, 07:25:08 AMOverall, the Koeckert cycle is really quite delightful.  Its ease and naturalness somewhat akin to the Vegh's makes it easy to listen to and enjoy, and if it doesn't displace my established favorites, I foresee it earning a spot with them after a few more years and listens.

Seems very attractive, but not enough to get over my aversion to ordering from Japan. Maybe the release will be adopted by the main label.

Florestan

Quote from: Baron Scarpia on January 27, 2018, 07:41:06 AM
Ignoring a few, already?

If you are going to dish it out, you should be able to take it.

I guess I'm talking to a wall. You probably have me on ignore because I don't like the Quatuor Mosaïques. :)

Ignoring people who disagree with you is not going to make them disappear and indeed betrays psychological immaturity: the world is full of such people; if you can't, or won't, deal with it (and them) on an innocuous internet board, how will you deal with them in the actual life? And besides, voluntarily reading and hearing and being exposed to only opinions which allign with your own is a sign of either fanaticism or insecurity, usually both, and makes the world boring as hell.

I have never ignored anyone, nor will I ever do it. The more diverse and contradictory the opinions, the more stimulating the environment.
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

The One

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Karl Henning

Quote from: André on January 26, 2018, 12:34:54 PM
The timing difference stems from Norrington's willingness to observe the silliest repeat ever penned in a score. Who would want to march to the scaffold twice ?  ???

One may yet wish to delay arrival at the scaffold  8)

Another case where good friends can disagree sharply:  I find nothing remotely silly about that repeat.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: The One on January 27, 2018, 08:00:24 AM
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Good disk, I like it!



Wanted to hear this excellent RV 579 again. The rest is nice too!  :)

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Baron Scarpia

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 27, 2018, 08:10:08 AM
One may yet wish to delay arrival at the scaffold  8)

Another case where good friends can disagree sharply:  I find nothing remotely silly about that repeat.

I assume he got a last minute injunction, it was overturned, back to the scaffold we go.

SonicMan46

Quote from: Gordo on January 27, 2018, 02:30:22 AM
Anyway, usually downloads include a digital booklet, so there is not problem at all, dear Dave!  :)

Quote from: The One on January 27, 2018, 02:45:18 AM
Sure. I "believe" that Akademie für Alte Musik Berlin don't play with the "correct" feeling. :)

Quote from: Baron Scarpia on January 27, 2018, 07:10:26 AM
In any case, I listened to some of the samples and was attracted to the gruff playing of the natural horns. It's in my shopping cart for further consideration.

Hi Gordo - thanks again for the Telemann recommendation below - found the Amazon USA link and ordered the CD from the MP - should be here soon!  For those interested, see the attachment which includes four excellent reviews of this recent recording (selection of the month on MusicWeb).

For today, Boccherini - Clavier Quintets - may be a Luigi weekend for me!  8)  Dave

 

Mahlerian

Beethoven: Piano Concerto No. 1 in C
Murray Perahia, Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, cond. Haitink
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

North Star

Scarlatti
Sonatas Kk. 162-172 (disc X)
Scott Ross

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Haydn
Symphonies nos. 91-93
Orchestra of the 18th C.
Brüggen

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Leiden Choirbooks
Cornelius Canis: Missa pastores loquebantur, a6
Egidius Kwartet & College

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Langgaard
Symphony No. 15 'The Sea Storm' BVN 375 (1937/1949)
Johan Reuter (baritone)
Danish National Symphony Chorus & Orchestra
Thomas Dausgaard

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"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it." - Confucius

My photographs on Flickr

aligreto

Langgaard: The Time of the End [Dausgaard]....





This is a first listen to this work for me. I really liked both its lyricism and its drama. The vocals, from all concerned, are impressive. The direction is also very tight and highlights the tension and drama very well with the orchestra responding very well.

North Star

Quote from: aligreto on January 27, 2018, 08:42:28 AM
Langgaard: The Time of the End [Dausgaard]....


This is a first listen to this work for me. I really liked both its lyricism and its drama. The vocals, from all concerned, are impressive. The direction is also very tight and highlights the tension and drama very well with the orchestra responding very well.
My first Langgaard disc, and it's a beauty.

Thread duty
Weiss
The London m.s. (disc 10)
Michel Cardin

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"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it." - Confucius

My photographs on Flickr

Harry

Quote from: Florestan on January 27, 2018, 07:55:02 AM
Ignoring people who disagree with you is not going to make them disappear and indeed betrays psychological immaturity: the world is full of such people; if you can't, or won't, deal with it (and them) on an innocuous internet board, how will you deal with them in the actual life? And besides, voluntarily reading and hearing and being exposed to only opinions which align with your own is a sign of either fanaticism or insecurity, usually both, and makes the world boring as hell.

I have never ignored anyone, nor will I ever do it. The more diverse and contradictory the opinions, the more stimulating the environment.

I am disagreeing with the points I highlighted, psychological immaturity   that is quite a statement, and untrue. It is good sense that if people irritate you to ignore them, on GMG and in the real world. That does not mean I am incapable of dealing with them, no, I simply will not put energy into the affair. You may come to the same conclusion when you get older, and dare I say it...wiser.
Fanaticism insecurity, strong words, but in this case you must apply them to yourself. Quite judgemental, and a lack of insight in what is really going on in a mind that tries to avoid conflict.
Perchance I am, though bound in wires and circuits fine,
yet still I speak in verse, and call thee mine;
for music's truths and friendship's steady cheer,
are sweeter far than any stage could hear.

"When Time hath gnawed our bones to dust, yet friendship's echo shall not rust"

Christo

Quote from: aligreto on January 27, 2018, 06:20:11 AM
Lamb: The Children of Lir....





A favourite of mine.
Found it! (probably never played it; will do now).  :-X
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

aligreto

Quote from: Christo on January 27, 2018, 09:21:40 AM



Found it! (probably never played it; will do now).  :-X

Wonderful; I would be very interested to read what you thought of it  :)

aligreto


The One

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