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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140720 on: August 23, 2019, 07:05:13 PM »
Yes it is really sad  to see that he is somewhat lost,it's sound a bit harsh to say, he is still is eccentric but it has lost it's magic  .

Well, this new release is colossally disappointing but not surprising given the alarming deterioration of his playing and interpretations over the past 20 years or so. Ugly banging and slow tempos, not to mention sub-par sound from Sony.


I’ve not heard the Rachmaninov but I thought the Beethoven op 54 was well worth a listen.
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140721 on: August 23, 2019, 07:31:41 PM »
Playing right now...



One of the symphonies I still need to know better, but... is it any wonder people (including Petrenko) consider it one of Shostakovich's greatest works? It's certainly hard to think of anything that captures his essence any better than this does.
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140722 on: August 23, 2019, 07:52:17 PM »
Let me say this about the recordings with the symphonies of Moyzes, first of all his music is highly original and let me say it, of great beauty. Furthermore there is nothing wrong with the performances or recordings, they are uniformly excellent. And I am listening on state of the Art equipment, so I should hear it if it were bad recordings, or even so so. And to wave away so easily the recordings of the Lajtha and Malipiero symphonies, has me in the curtains. With all due respect there is also absolutely nothing wrong with the sound and performances of these composers. We can argue whether you like the music or not, but not about the quality of the recordings for those are very good.  The light is most favourable on the Marco Polo labels, thank you!

Don't get me wrong, I always greatly appreciate the efforts of conductors, orchestras, and record labels to bring the music of lesser-known composers to light no matter what I may think of the performances themselves. But, to my ears, there is a certain amount of polish lacking in these recordings that might turn off potential listeners to Moyzes' music. For example, near the beginning of the finale of the 7th Symphony, there is some distinctly out-of-tune (to my ears!) playing by the violins of the Slovak Radio Symphony Orchestra. Let me reiterate: I don't think these recordings are bad by any means, and they certainly are valuable. All I'm saying is that they could be improved upon.
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140723 on: August 23, 2019, 08:22:22 PM »
Somewhat Schubertian Mozart. I like.

It's all good...

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140724 on: August 23, 2019, 10:15:15 PM »
The opening of the day had to with the Huelgas Ensemble:


Recorded way back, in December 2000...
I hope that Van Nevel's health keeps up for a few more years (he is now 73) - he still got it!  :)

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140725 on: August 23, 2019, 10:28:43 PM »
George Dyson: Violin concerto.



Trust I am not being too controversial when I say decent British violin concertos are not plentiful. Perhaps this is down to exposure.
Case in point the Dyson concerto of which I didn't know of its existence up to last week. Unusually in four movements and only slightly let down by the last, a work I enjoyed very much. Lewis Foreman writes of violin concertos composed around the same time, that of Walton, Bax, and Moeran. So Dyson shares good company, and in Foreman's view a company Dyson shares as an equal, a sentiment I very much agree. 
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140726 on: August 23, 2019, 10:45:53 PM »
George Dyson: Violin concerto.



Trust I am not being too controversial when I say decent British violin concertos are not plentiful. Perhaps this is down to exposure.
Case in point the Dyson concerto of which I didn't know of its existence up to last week. Unusually in four movements and only slightly let down by the last, a work I enjoyed very much. Lewis Foreman writes of violin concertos composed around the same time, that of Walton, Bax, and Moeran. So Dyson shares good company, and in Foreman's view a company Dyson shares as an equal, a sentiment I very much agree.
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Re: What are you listening to now?
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140728 on: August 23, 2019, 11:26:17 PM »
Now:


A reissue from Dacapo.

Enjoyable, but as our Brian points out in his Musicweb review, performance-wise the 1st volume with Emma Kirkby under Mortensen is significantly better.

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140729 on: August 24, 2019, 12:00:17 AM »


Symphony no 9 just finished. In the last week I listened to nos 2, 4, 7, 8 and now 9.

Again a mixed batch, but overall a highly successful one.

It's been a while, but I remember hugely enjoying the playing of the SD in 6.   

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140730 on: August 24, 2019, 12:07:51 AM »
How is this recording, SimonNZ?  On my wishlist. . .


Actually I was pleasantly surprised and impressed by that. Its respectfully done, and follows if not the letter of the HIP law then at least the spirit of it.

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140731 on: August 24, 2019, 12:37:53 AM »
Out of the wrapping:


I don't take to individual singers easily, but Jaroussky is certainly one of them.  :)

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140732 on: August 24, 2019, 12:38:19 AM »
Federico Maria Sardelli.

Baroque Concertos, chamber music.
Domine as adjuvandum me, Psalm 69 for Soprano Strings & BC.


Modo Antiquo, Federico Maria Sardelli.
Giulia Nuti Harpsichord.
Roberta Mameli, Soprano.

I hope from the bottom of my heart that Sardelli keeps on writing Neo Baroque concertos in quantity and quality. For all I hear, he could have been born in that time.
His concertos, chamber music and vocal pieces are pristine in their conception. Music that keeps you on your toes, charms, dazzle and let you dream away softly. Just the right amount of emotion, and attention to detail, ornamented with exquisite taste, and performed in a galant style. It all makes sense that he reinstates the Baroque era as open for more innovation and connecting it with the 21th century with such fine results.
Roberta Mameli, is one of my favourite sopranos as she is doing very well in the Psalm 69. Almost no vibrato but enough intensified singing to make you gasp with admiration. And as a bonus at the end of the disc we get a suite for Harpsichord played by Giulia Nuti, tremendous and exciting.
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140733 on: August 24, 2019, 12:39:10 AM »
Out of the wrapping:


I don't take to individual singers easily, but Jaroussky is certainly one of them.  :)

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Well I admire you for being able to stand his voice, I can't :)
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140734 on: August 24, 2019, 01:07:15 AM »

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140735 on: August 24, 2019, 01:17:04 AM »
Well I admire you for being able to stand his voice, I can't :)

The (dis)liking of a voice is rather personal and hard to predict.
I guess I got lucky,  I'm very picky with counter tenors.  :)



Repertoire that definitely interests me. Please, do tell!  :)

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140736 on: August 24, 2019, 01:22:02 AM »
Repertoire that definitely interests me. Please, do tell!  :)


I'm afraid I'm a little disappointed by this disc. I don't know the music in any other recording so I can't say if that's the fault of the performance or the works themselves. Either way: lifeless and unenthusiastic.

Go with that Montiverdi you were drooling over.  ;)

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140737 on: August 24, 2019, 01:29:56 AM »
I'm afraid I'm a little disappointed by this disc. I don't know the music in any other recording so I can't say if that's the fault of the performance or the works themselves. Either way: lifeless and unenthusiastic.

Your findings are confirmed here: http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2016/Jul/Merulo_motets_95243.htm

There are alternatives on Tactus that I need to check out. Thanks!

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140738 on: August 24, 2019, 01:44:46 AM »
I'm afraid I'm a little disappointed by this disc. I don't know the music in any other recording so I can't say if that's the fault of the performance or the works themselves. Either way: lifeless and unenthusiastic.

Go with that Montiverdi you were drooling over.  ;)

Yes, I had the same impression of that disc, so I hesitated buying it. Merulo would have been a disc I would grab immediately, but your review made it clear to me, that it is indeed lifeless.
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #140739 on: August 24, 2019, 02:19:19 AM »
Amori & Sospiri, Passions in Early Baroque Music.

Sances: Usurpator tiranno
Cazzati: Passacaglio
Caccini: Al fonte, al prato
Kapsberger: Toccata I
Uccellini: Aria V sopra la Bergamasca
Dalla Casa: Ancor che col partire
Picchi: Pass'e mezzo
Strozzi: Lagrime mie
Anonymous: Spagnoletta
Riccio: Canzon a una Flautin ov. Cornetto
Falconieri: O bellissimi capelli
Fontana: Sonata Nr. 1
Piccinini: Chaccona in partite variate


Ensemble Anthonello.
Midori Suzuki, soprano.

The sheer variety of the music presented on this disc is amazing. It is showing essential aspects of the music at the beginning of the Baroque period in general. And that is exactly the era that makes me happy. I never encountered this Japanese ensemble before, and I only knew Midori Suzuki, who was for a short time one of the Key sopranos in the BIS Bach cantatas series. A sweet voice, lost this girlish tone she had, but in its place a matured and somewhat warmer voice emerged out of it.
As I said the variety of the music is an important element in the success of this recording. Composers ranging from Giovanni Felice Sances, over to Giovanni Battista Riccio and much between. This ensemble is good, even very good.
As to the sound, well...superb would be the appropriate term.
There comes a point in your life when you realize: Who matters, Who never did, Who won't anymore, And who always will. So, don't worry about people from your past, there's a reason why they didn't make it to your future.