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#19240
Quote from: Turner on November 26, 2017, 09:36:08 AM
I disagree. A lot.

For me, Suk and Smetana wrote a lot of good music, but none touches me in the same manner as the afore mentioned Czech masters.

Daverz

Quote from: Mirror Image on November 25, 2017, 07:48:31 PM
Just bought these two OOP recordings:



Looks like Flor never finished the cycle.

Mirror Image

Quote from: Daverz on November 26, 2017, 01:27:04 PM
Looks like Flor never finished the cycle.

I know and it's a shame as his performance of the 2nd is absolutely first-rate in every way. I haven't heard the others (yet).

aligreto

Berg: Lulu [Boulez]....



Madiel

Quote from: Mirror Image on November 25, 2017, 05:59:35 AM
After Dvořák and Janáček, Martinů is recognized as the greatest Czech composer.

Quote from: Mirror Image on November 26, 2017, 09:29:43 AM
::) I didn't realize music was some kind of competition. I'm certainly not playing this 'who's greater than...' game with you.

Just occasionally, you really don't read your own material. And it's usually in this kind of situation.
Every single post on the forum is unnecessary. Including the ones that are interesting or useful.

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: HIPster on November 26, 2017, 09:18:55 AM
Very interesting!

Thanks for posting this; I will look forward to your review in due time.  ;)

Good morning, HIPster. Had my first complete listen yesterday, and I was very pleased, and impressed with this recording. I'm generally not into "reconstructed" pieces, although there are some that feel right in line with the original composer's vision (Berg's Lulu) and others sounding out of place (Bruckner's 9th), this is of course IMHO, and to me it also depends on how much of the music had to be reconstructed, or even had additional music composed for. So I originally avoided this Venzago version of the D759 symphony of Schubert. I haven't read the liner notes yet but I'm aware that Venzago had to reconstruct the Scherzo, and then borrowed from Rosamunde, which he believed was the original music for D759's finale, but I will dive deeper into his workings. But I find that the final two movements sound fine when added with the opening two. It will take more time to get used to, only because of how long I've been used to the "Unfinished" symphony, but I did come very close at my first listen to hearing a complete 4-mvt symphony, mainly because the music in the Scherzo and Finale are pure Schubert. In the end I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed it, and I'm more than likely going to sit through it again today! The best part was with about a minute left in the finale, the famous cello/bass melody from the opening of the symphony returned briefly, I haven't listened to Rosamunde in a while, but I wonder if Venzago added that in? Regardless it had created a surprisngly effective moment.
Venzago is always interesting in his interpretations, and do get ready for a swift, but intensely played opening Allegro Moderato.
Sorry I rambled! But let me know if you listen to it, I'm sure this will devide many listeners, but it will be fun to hear yours, and others thoughts.

Mirror Image

Quote from: ørfeo on November 27, 2017, 03:24:51 AM
Just occasionally, you really don't read your own material. And it's usually in this kind of situation.

Well, I did say Martinu was recognized as the greatest since the afore mentioned composers, I didn't state this to be true for myself as I'm merely just repeating what I've read by musicians, critics, fans, and historians.

Madiel

Quote from: Mirror Image on November 27, 2017, 04:38:54 AM
Well, I did say Martinu was recognized as the greatest since the afore mentioned composers, I didn't state this to be true for myself as I'm merely just repeating what I've read by musicians, critics, fans, and historians.

Yes I know. But then your reaction was to declare that you didn't know there was some kind of competition. Not just that you weren't participating, but that it shouldn't exist. The very kind of ranking that you raised in the first place.

In response to someone who wrote in a way that was completely consistent with what you are now saying - they didn't indicate in any way that it was YOUR opinion they were disagreeing with.

I know you don't like conflict. That much is clear. But you do yourself a disservice when you run away from it so hastily that you trip over your own words in the process.
Every single post on the forum is unnecessary. Including the ones that are interesting or useful.

Mirror Image

Quote from: ørfeo on November 27, 2017, 04:44:00 AMYes I know. But then your reaction was to declare that you didn't know there was some kind of competition. Not just that you weren't participating, but that it shouldn't exist. The very kind of ranking that you raised in the first place.

In response to someone who wrote in a way that was completely consistent with what you are now saying - they didn't indicate in any way that it was YOUR opinion they were disagreeing with.

I know you don't like conflict. That much is clear. But you do yourself a disservice when you run away from it so hastily that you trip over your own words in the process.

I think you're making a big deal out of nothing. That is all.

Madiel

 ::)

Every. Single. Time.

Nothing more to say than that.
Every single post on the forum is unnecessary. Including the ones that are interesting or useful.

Mirror Image

Quote from: ørfeo on November 27, 2017, 04:55:39 AM
::)

Every. Single. Time.

Nothing more to say than that.

Well, I'm just curious if you go around looking to argue with people? You seem like a rather combative personality, but I believe we've spoke about this before.

Madiel

I refer you to my previous answer.

Good night.
Every single post on the forum is unnecessary. Including the ones that are interesting or useful.

Mirror Image


André

Not that I *needed* this  ;D, but at 0.84$ and only one left  I figured I should jump on this. And I did !



Plus, the piano quintet is possibly my favourite chamber music genre. So, there!

HIPster

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Quote from: TheGSMoeller on November 27, 2017, 04:03:20 AM
Good morning, HIPster. Had my first complete listen yesterday, and I was very pleased, and impressed with this recording. I'm generally not into "reconstructed" pieces, although there are some that feel right in line with the original composer's vision (Berg's Lulu) and others sounding out of place (Bruckner's 9th), this is of course IMHO, and to me it also depends on how much of the music had to be reconstructed, or even had additional music composed for. So I originally avoided this Venzago version of the D759 symphony of Schubert. I haven't read the liner notes yet but I'm aware that Venzago had to reconstruct the Scherzo, and then borrowed from Rosamunde, which he believed was the original music for D759's finale, but I will dive deeper into his workings. But I find that the final two movements sound fine when added with the opening two. It will take more time to get used to, only because of how long I've been used to the "Unfinished" symphony, but I did come very close at my first listen to hearing a complete 4-mvt symphony, mainly because the music in the Scherzo and Finale are pure Schubert. In the end I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed it, and I'm more than likely going to sit through it again today! The best part was with about a minute left in the finale, the famous cello/bass melody from the opening of the symphony returned briefly, I haven't listened to Rosamunde in a while, but I wonder if Venzago added that in? Regardless it had created a surprisngly effective moment.
Venzago is always interesting in his interpretations, and do get ready for a swift, but intensely played opening Allegro Moderato.
Sorry I rambled! But let me know if you listen to it, I'm sure this will devide many listeners, but it will be fun to hear yours, and others thoughts.

Excellent review, Greg!

Wow, thank you for your thoughts.

Of course I just bought it!  :laugh:

Cheers!
Wise words from Que:

Never waste a good reason for a purchase....  ;)

kishnevi

#19255
My Martinu project continues.

This particular batch was all listed as "low stock" so we'll see what actually ships when.  The Debussy was something I meant to get when it came out, but didn't.

(Field Masd, Memorial to Lidice, Symphony 4

Mirror Image

#19256
Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on November 27, 2017, 07:34:34 PM
My Martinu project continues.

This particular batch was all listed as "low stock" so we'll see what actually ships when.  The Debussy was something I meant to get when it came out, but didn't.

(Field Masd, Memorial to Lidice, Symphony 4


Pounds the table! I kind of wished you had bought the Honeck recording of The Epic of Gilgamesh, but that Bělohlávek is really good. You'll have to let me know what you think of the Isserlis/Mustonen as I only own the Isserlis/Evans on Helios (Hyperion) in those sonatas. You've built yourself quite a Martinu collection with these past two hauls. 8) I hope you enjoy the music as much as I have.

P.S. That Debussy looks enticing. I might have to pick this one up myself at some juncture.

SimonNZ

How close are Supraphon to being able to do a Complete Martinu edition?

Mirror Image

#19258
Quote from: SimonNZ on November 27, 2017, 08:01:36 PM
How close are Supraphon to being able to do a Complete Martinu edition?

They've got quite a ways to go yet with several operas, ballets, concertos, chamber, songs, and solo piano music that haven't been recorded on the label yet. They've recorded A LOT of his music to be sure, but what they could do instead of saying 'Complete,' they could title a box set The Martinu Recordings On Supraphon or something along these lines.

kishnevi

Quote from: Mirror Image on November 27, 2017, 07:56:20 PM
Pounds the table! I kind of wished you had bought the Honeck recording of The Epic of Gilgamesh, but that Bělohlávek is really good. You'll have to let me know what you think of the Isserlis/Mustonen as I only own the Isserlis/Evans on Helios (Hyperion) in those sonatas. You've built yourself quite a Martinu collection with these past two hauls. 8) I hope you enjoy the music as much as I have.

P.S. That Debussy looks enticing. I might have to pick this one up myself at some juncture.

I am choosing from what Arkivmusic offers. Curiously,  they have yet to offer the new Gilmagesh recording.

BTW, part III of the Martinu project is being prepared. 

The last composer who I connected with this quickly was Shostakovich.