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Ratliff

Quote from: André on December 30, 2019, 06:01:10 PM
35$ is a good price. I bought that very same set for less than that 4 years ago at the record store. I still have the bill tucked inside the box. Haven't listened to it yet  ::). It's a replacement to the LP sets I used to have. Since I know that version very well I'm not in a hurry to put it in the cd player yet. But its turn should be coming soon  :). I think you will like it !

That's a great price. I'm tempted to get it even though I already have the set (20 year old master) just for the pdf librettos and the better master. (The 1997 release was widely criticized for excessive noise reduction, resulting in a drab sound.)

Que

Quote from: Ratliff on December 30, 2019, 06:21:05 PM
That's a great price. I'm tempted to get it even though I already have the set (20 year old master) just for the pdf librettos and the better master. (The 1997 release was widely criticized for excessive noise reduction, resulting in a drab sound.)

I still have the 1984 1st CD issue "brick" with full libretti, and was shocked what they did to the sound in 1997.... Someone got very overzealous.

Q

Ratliff

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Couldn't resist, just $35 at Amazon.com, based on a tip above. This will replace my 1997 edition, in which they applied injudicious noise suppression to eliminate tape his, and threw out the baby with the bath water. Plus this edition has libretti with translation (and other material) on a CD-rom.

Mirror Image

Quote from: vers la flamme on December 30, 2019, 03:45:05 PM
Were Tchaikovsky, Prokofiev, and Stravinsky the holy trinity of Russian Ballet? Is anyone else even in their league?!

I'm not fond of Tchaikovsky and soured on his music in my early listening days, but Stravinsky and Prokofiev wrote some exquisite ballet music. Are you asking are there other Russians who wrote as marvelously as they did or are you asking a general question about composers who were on par with Stravinsky and Prokofiev in regards to ballet music?

Carlo Gesualdo

I purchase an album on naxos of Hosokawa I did not have, I have a relationship of love and hate whit Hosokawa, I will explain why?

The thing is extreme dynamic, is fun but this make his work headphone music, since I don't wont to struggled whit volume

The album is called meditation...something something in German, this is a basque orchestra I don't know how it sounds since I'm a risk taker.

To a point were , I explore whiteout hearing, instinct I presumed.

vers la flamme

Quote from: Mirror Image on December 31, 2019, 08:40:21 PM
I'm not fond of Tchaikovsky and soured on his music in my early listening days, but Stravinsky and Prokofiev wrote some exquisite ballet music. Are you asking are there other Russians who wrote as marvelously as they did or are you asking a general question about composers who were on par with Stravinsky and Prokofiev in regards to ballet music?

I'm only asking if there were any other Russians who wrote ballets on par with the ballets of these three composers. Russian ballet is a world renowned art form, and it kind of rests on the shoulders of these three composers (and the choreographers and producers and set designers and dancers and everyone else involved... I'm kind of clueless as to the actual dance side of things).

steve ridgway

Quote from: Carlo Gesualdo on December 31, 2019, 10:25:08 PM
I purchase an album on naxos of Hosokawa I did not have, I have a relationship of love and hate whit Hosokawa, I will explain why?

The thing is extreme dynamic, is fun but this make his work headphone music, since I don't wont to struggled whit volume

The album is called meditation...something something in German, this is a basque orchestra I don't know how it sounds since I'm a risk taker.

To a point were , I explore whiteout hearing, instinct I presumed.

I am not going here ???.

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André

Quote from: vers la flamme on January 01, 2020, 03:37:26 AM
I'm only asking if there were any other Russians who wrote ballets on par with the ballets of these three composers. Russian ballet is a world renowned art form, and it kind of rests on the shoulders of these three composers (and the choreographers and producers and set designers and dancers and everyone else involved... I'm kind of clueless as to the actual dance side of things).

Not on a par with those, but excellent second tier stuff: Khatchaturian's Spartacus and Gayaneh, Glazunov's The Seasons and Raymonda. From the latter I know the suite, not the full work.

André


First purchase of 2020  ;D


Mirror Image

Man, I wasn't going to buy any new purchases until March (around my birthday), but I did end up placing an order for a few recordings I wanted:



Roasted Swan

Quote from: vers la flamme on January 01, 2020, 03:37:26 AM
I'm only asking if there were any other Russians who wrote ballets on par with the ballets of these three composers. Russian ballet is a world renowned art form, and it kind of rests on the shoulders of these three composers (and the choreographers and producers and set designers and dancers and everyone else involved... I'm kind of clueless as to the actual dance side of things).

Simple answer - Yes.  Perhaps not on a par with those three but still great scores all.  In fact I think you'd realise you knew excerpts from all of these already (except probably Anna Karenina) ;

Glazunov - The Seasons and Raymonda
Gliere - The Red Poppy / The Bronze Horseman
Khachaturian - Spartacus / Gayeneh
Shostakovich - The Bolt / The Golden Age
Shchedrin - Anna Karenenina

Arensky and Tcherepnin worth exploring too

Maestro267

There's a considerable difference in sound between Tchaikovsky/Glazunov and Prokofiev/Shostakovich/Khachaturian. The pre-Soviets' music was refined and almost regal. The Soviets' music had grit, and a certain banality added to it.

I've struggled with Shostakovich's Golden Age. There's not much depth to it. It feels like 140-odd minutes of circus music.

Mirror Image

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Quote from: Maestro267 on January 02, 2020, 07:31:15 AMI've struggled with Shostakovich's Golden Age. There's not much depth to it. It feels like 140-odd minutes of circus music.

I tend to agree, but I think there is more depth to Shostakovich's The Golden Age then one initially realizes, but it doesn't really register fully with me until I get to that remarkable Adagio:

https://www.youtube.com/v/OySG5xqDH9M

Papy Oli

Couple more used books on the way :

Olivier

Christo

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Quote from: André on January 01, 2020, 05:38:49 AM
Not on a par with those, but excellent second tier stuff: Khatchaturian's Spartacus and Gayaneh, Glazunov's The Seasons and Raymonda. From the latter I know the suite, not the full work.

My first ballet score from Prokofiev would still be his Scythian Suite aka Ala i Lolli ballet (1916). Other on a par, in my ears (I don't see ballets performed that often, yet saw an excellent Nutcracker+ in Prague, three winters ago, would include:

Gabriel Pierné, Cydalise et le chèvre-pied (1913)
Vaughan Williams, The Bridal Day (1938, my favourite RVW 'masque for dancing', different league of course)
Samuel Barber, Medea (1946)
Eugen Kapp, Kalevipoeg (1947)
Stevan Hristić, Ohridska legenda (The legend of Ohrid, 1947)
Uuno Klami, Pyörteitä ('Whirls' I think, left unfished in 1961)
I'm also fairly impressed by those by Arthur Bliss, perhaps most by Miracle in the Gorbals (1944)  :)

Edit: how could I overlook El amor brujo (1915) and El sombrero de tres picos (1919), Manuel de Falla's two masterpieces?   ???
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Roasted Swan

Quote from: Maestro267 on January 02, 2020, 07:31:15 AM
There's a considerable difference in sound between Tchaikovsky/Glazunov and Prokofiev/Shostakovich/Khachaturian. The pre-Soviets' music was refined and almost regal. The Soviets' music had grit, and a certain banality added to it.

I've struggled with Shostakovich's Golden Age. There's not much depth to it. It feels like 140-odd minutes of circus music.

The query was not music that sounded like the other 3 but other good Russian/Soviet Ballet Music.  We'll agree to disagree about Golden Age

The new erato


Madiel

Quote from: Christo on January 02, 2020, 12:24:09 PM
My first ballet score from Prokofiev would still be his Scythian Suite aka Ala i Lolli ballet (1916). Other on a par, in my ears (I don't see ballets performed that often, yet saw an excellent Nutcracker+ in Prague, three winters ago, would include:

Gabriel Pierné, Cydalise et le chèvre-pied (1913)
Vaughan Williams, The Bridal Day (1938, my favourite RVW 'masque for dancing', different league of course)
Samuel Barber, Medea (1946)
Eugen Kapp, Kalevipoeg (1947)
Stevan Hristić, Ohridska legenda (The legend of Ohrid, 1947)
Uuno Klami, Pyörteitä ('Whirls' I think, left unfished in 1961)
I'm also fairly impressed by those by Arthur Bliss, perhaps most by Miracle in the Gorbals (1944)  :)

Edit: how could I overlook El amor brujo (1915) and El sombrero de tres picos (1919), Manuel de Falla's two masterpieces?   ???

The question was specifically about Russian music.
Nobody has to apologise for using their brain.

Christo

Quote from: Madiel on January 02, 2020, 10:16:33 PM
The question was specifically about Russian music.
Realized that after posting, my mistake. :( Yet my tip is in it: Kalevipoeg, 1947, by Eugen Kapp, a forced "realistic" contribution from Soviet-occupied Estonia with musical qualities of the first order, warmly recommended.  :)
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

vers la flamme

I'll be curious to check out those Shostakovich and Khachaturian ballets, and perhaps also Glazunov. I know none of his music, for me he will always be the guy who botched the première of Rachmaninov's first symphony.  ;D