Author Topic: Purchases Today  (Read 3045732 times)

0 Members and 20 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Mirror Image

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 56097
  • Béla Bartók (1881 - 1945)
  • Location: Northeast GA, US
  • Currently Listening to:
    Romantic Era through the 20th Century
Re: Purchases Today
« Reply #28820 on: June 10, 2021, 07:07:48 PM »
I looked around a bit, and it's damned complicated. Does one want all the dialogue? Historical recordings? Stereo sound? Remasters? And availability of many releases seems sketchy.

I don't really want a big box...I think that for either Pirates of Penzance (the work I'm most familiar with) or The Mikado, I'll try Mackerras (who seems a solid modern choice, albeit apparently sans dialogue and with some cuts) and a D'Oyly Carte recording with dialogue (either '50s or '60s vintage, subject to further research). Individual Mackerras releases seem available cheaply; there was a UK box set but I didn't notice any offerings. The menu of D'Oyly Carte CDs is confusing, and I'm having trouble discerning whether dialogue is included (Amazon data has become so garbled that one can't assume the displayed reviews pertain to the recording being examined!).

Thanks for the feedback. I’ll probably get the Mackerras recordings on Telarc at some point. I was also doing a bit of research and, yes, those D’Oyly Carte recordings are damn confusing. I’ll probably just stay away from those. I definitely don’t want the dialogue --- this I do know for sure. I usually don’t even read Amazon reviews anymore as, like you said, so many aren’t even for the recording I’m viewing. A shame that they haven’t done something about this, but I usually head over to MusicWeb for reviews as the most knowledge folks seem to write reviews on that site.
“Competitions are for horses; not artists.” - Béla Bartók

Offline TheGSMoeller

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 11634
  • Monkey Greg
Re: Purchases Today
« Reply #28821 on: June 11, 2021, 06:12:42 AM »
Found a few good picks at a local used store...





A few more from various online sellers...


Offline steve ridgway

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 2182
  • Location: Cheshire, England
  • Currently Listening to:
    The museum of musical modernism
Re: Purchases Today
« Reply #28822 on: June 11, 2021, 06:32:59 AM »
Found a few good picks at a local used store...



Cool, I used to enjoy browsing through used "rock" CDs but no longer find anything I want.

Offline Mirror Image

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 56097
  • Béla Bartók (1881 - 1945)
  • Location: Northeast GA, US
  • Currently Listening to:
    Romantic Era through the 20th Century
Re: Purchases Today
« Reply #28823 on: June 11, 2021, 06:33:30 AM »
Just bought:



I’ve been eyeing this recording for quite some time. The whole prospect of Bernstein conducting Wagner is appealing to me as he did so incredibly well in Strauss’ Der Rosenkavalier. Personally, I never thought he’d be much of an opera conductor until I heard his Der Rosenkavalier. Definitely looking forward to hearing this performance.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2021, 06:35:56 AM by Mirror Image »
“Competitions are for horses; not artists.” - Béla Bartók

Offline André

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 10640
  • Location: Laval, QC
Re: Purchases Today
« Reply #28824 on: June 11, 2021, 11:09:25 AM »
Found a few good picks at a local used store...


A few more from various online sellers...



An incredible Sibelius 2nd !

Offline Brian

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 22327
    • Brian's blog
Re: Purchases Today
« Reply #28825 on: June 11, 2021, 03:07:32 PM »
An incredible Sibelius 2nd !
Yep, legendary for good reason!

Offline mabuse

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 109
Re: Purchases Today
« Reply #28826 on: June 11, 2021, 03:34:12 PM »
I had heard a Ravel concerto by Alicia de Larrocha and Leonard Slatkin a long time ago on the radio ... I found it very good!
I would have to find the CD too.

Offline JBS

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 4859
  • If music be the food of love, play on!
  • Location: USA
Re: Purchases Today
« Reply #28827 on: June 11, 2021, 03:40:26 PM »

(The complete music for 'cello and piano)

(With Eric LeSage as pianist)


Hollywood Beach Broadwalk

Offline T. D.

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 1425
  • Location: Rural upstate NY
Re: Purchases Today
« Reply #28828 on: June 11, 2021, 05:38:33 PM »
My Gilbert & Sullivan recording experiment:



Intended to buy just the Mackerras Pirates, but Pirates/Mikado were offered together on eBay at a very low price...
The first Pirates recording is 1968 D'Oyly Carte with dialogue, 2 CDs. The Mackerras Pirates is a 1992 release with operatic personnel, no dialogue, and cuts (incl. unfortunately the Overture) to fit on 1 CD.
Not sure which I'll prefer. In my concert-going experience, purely operatic G & S performances offer some musical advantages but tend to be lacking in acting and humor.
Didn't research the Mikado recording, but hey, what the heck.

Offline Mirror Image

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 56097
  • Béla Bartók (1881 - 1945)
  • Location: Northeast GA, US
  • Currently Listening to:
    Romantic Era through the 20th Century
Re: Purchases Today
« Reply #28829 on: June 11, 2021, 06:01:27 PM »
My Gilbert & Sullivan recording experiment:



Intended to buy just the Mackerras Pirates, but Pirates/Mikado were offered together on eBay at a very low price...
The first Pirates recording is 1968 D'Oyly Carte with dialogue, 2 CDs. The Mackerras Pirates is a 1992 release with operatic personnel, no dialogue, and cuts (incl. unfortunately the Overture) to fit on 1 CD.
Not sure which I'll prefer. In my concert-going experience, purely operatic G & S performances offer some musical advantages but tend to be lacking in acting and humor.
Didn't research the Mikado recording, but hey, what the heck.

Cool. I’ll be interested in your opinion of these recordings once you’ve heard them.
“Competitions are for horses; not artists.” - Béla Bartók

Offline JBS

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 4859
  • If music be the food of love, play on!
  • Location: USA
Re: Purchases Today
« Reply #28830 on: June 11, 2021, 06:47:57 PM »
My favorite Pirates has always been this, which started off as a Broadway production

The cast from left to right:
Angela Lansbury, George Rose, Kevin Kline [as the Pirate King], Rex Smith [remember him? I barely do], Linda Ronstadt.

Hollywood Beach Broadwalk

Offline Madiel

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 10361
    • A musical diary
  • Location: Canberra, Australia
  • Currently Listening to:
    Whatever's listed in my blog.
Re: Purchases Today
« Reply #28831 on: June 11, 2021, 08:43:46 PM »
Just looked, the D'Oyly Carte recordings I've been gifted (I've only listened to 1 or 2 so far in over a year, dear me) are mostly from 1949-1951 and conducted by Isidore Godfrey.



I don't think there's dialogue from memory. I'd say the recording quality is probably decent for the age, and quite listenable, but not something that I'd recommend on the basis of that. I believe the box is super cheap. I doubt it would be my first choice to buy, put it that way (but the gift has enormous sentimental value).

EDIT: This site I just stumbled upon will help in figuring out what is out there, including the plethora of D'Oyly Carte versions. It includes the author's ratings of various sets, and also seems to indicate which ones include dialogue. http://gasdisc.oakapplepress.com/index.htm

SECOND EDIT: The versions I have are not regarded favourably. Mackerras seems to get good ratings.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2021, 08:52:50 PM by Madiel »
I am now working on a discography of the works of Vagn Holmboe. Please visit and also contribute!

Offline Madiel

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 10361
    • A musical diary
  • Location: Canberra, Australia
  • Currently Listening to:
    Whatever's listed in my blog.
Re: Purchases Today
« Reply #28832 on: June 11, 2021, 08:53:53 PM »
My Gilbert & Sullivan recording experiment:



Intended to buy just the Mackerras Pirates, but Pirates/Mikado were offered together on eBay at a very low price...
The first Pirates recording is 1968 D'Oyly Carte with dialogue, 2 CDs. The Mackerras Pirates is a 1992 release with operatic personnel, no dialogue, and cuts (incl. unfortunately the Overture) to fit on 1 CD.
Not sure which I'll prefer. In my concert-going experience, purely operatic G & S performances offer some musical advantages but tend to be lacking in acting and humor.
Didn't research the Mikado recording, but hey, what the heck.

According to the website I just discovered and mentioned above, you've picked up the 2 best Pirates versions available.
I am now working on a discography of the works of Vagn Holmboe. Please visit and also contribute!

Offline VonStupp

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 344
    • Amazon Public Profile
  • Location: Breadbasket, USA
  • Currently Listening to:
    Backtracking through my catalog
Re: Purchases Today
« Reply #28833 on: June 12, 2021, 01:27:11 AM »

My favorite Pirates has always been this, which started off as a Broadway production
The cast from left to right:
Angela Lansbury, George Rose, Kevin Kline [as the Pirate King], Rex Smith [remember him? I barely do], Linda Ronstadt.

My wife laughed and laughed and laughed when we watched that movie; very entertaining. Just make sure you don't watch The Pirate Movie - complete with 'new' 80's songs and codpiece humour; truly terrible:

« Last Edit: June 12, 2021, 01:46:13 AM by VonStupp »
“All the good music has already been written by people with wigs and stuff.”

Offline vers la flamme

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 2715
  • Location: Atlanta
Re: Purchases Today
« Reply #28834 on: June 12, 2021, 03:46:14 AM »
My Gilbert & Sullivan recording experiment:



Intended to buy just the Mackerras Pirates, but Pirates/Mikado were offered together on eBay at a very low price...
The first Pirates recording is 1968 D'Oyly Carte with dialogue, 2 CDs. The Mackerras Pirates is a 1992 release with operatic personnel, no dialogue, and cuts (incl. unfortunately the Overture) to fit on 1 CD.
Not sure which I'll prefer. In my concert-going experience, purely operatic G & S performances offer some musical advantages but tend to be lacking in acting and humor.
Didn't research the Mikado recording, but hey, what the heck.

I was looking at that same listing  ;D Hope you enjoy those CDs.

Offline Mirror Image

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 56097
  • Béla Bartók (1881 - 1945)
  • Location: Northeast GA, US
  • Currently Listening to:
    Romantic Era through the 20th Century
Re: Purchases Today
« Reply #28835 on: June 12, 2021, 08:10:05 PM »
Just bought:



I own many cycles of these SQs already, but only the Borodin SQ has been the one I returned to the most often. I heard these performances from the Fitzwilliam String Quartet on on par with those from the Borodin.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2021, 08:11:38 PM by Mirror Image »
“Competitions are for horses; not artists.” - Béla Bartók

Online OrchestralNut

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 4577
  • Sergey Ivanovich Taneyev (1856-1915)
  • Location: Winnipeg, Canada
Re: Purchases Today
« Reply #28836 on: June 13, 2021, 01:23:46 AM »
Just bought:



I own many cycles of these SQs already, but only the Borodin SQ has been the one I returned to the most often. I heard these performances from the Fitzwilliam String Quartet on on par with those from the Borodin.

Very good performances, John. I do like this set a lot. Although like you, the Borodins are my go to.

Offline aligreto

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 25755
  • Location: Ireland
Re: Purchases Today
« Reply #28837 on: June 13, 2021, 01:27:33 AM »
Just bought:



I own many cycles of these SQs already, but only the Borodin SQ has been the one I returned to the most often. I heard these performances from the Fitzwilliam String Quartet on on par with those from the Borodin.

I think that is a terrific set, John, from a performance point of view. The only issue that I have with it is that I find the instruments are too closely miced for my liking but one gets over that. Enjoy it.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and leave no doubt.

Online OrchestralNut

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 4577
  • Sergey Ivanovich Taneyev (1856-1915)
  • Location: Winnipeg, Canada
Re: Purchases Today
« Reply #28838 on: June 13, 2021, 01:53:54 AM »
I think that is a terrific set, John, from a performance point of view. The only issue that I have with it is that I find the instruments are too closely miced for my liking but one gets over that. Enjoy it.

I don't have sophisticated enough ears to detect something like that.  :D

Offline Madiel

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 10361
    • A musical diary
  • Location: Canberra, Australia
  • Currently Listening to:
    Whatever's listed in my blog.
Re: Purchases Today
« Reply #28839 on: June 13, 2021, 03:06:27 AM »
I don't have sophisticated enough ears to detect something like that.  :D

You can hear a bird singing at the end of one of the quartets... I forget which one.
I am now working on a discography of the works of Vagn Holmboe. Please visit and also contribute!