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« Reply #29680 on: September 21, 2021, 09:22:26 AM »
Will be interested in hearing how you like Gergiev's "Nutcracker".  I have this recording with the Kirov and hated it; way too fast for me!  I noticed that your set is on two CDs though.


Sadly, it's in my pile to sell or give away.  :(

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Complete ballet on 1 CD is quite the giveaway. When Gergiev was good, he was very good. But he could be responsible for some turkeys.
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« Reply #29681 on: September 21, 2021, 09:58:39 AM »
Will be interested in hearing how you like Gergiev's "Nutcracker".  I have this recording with the Kirov and hated it; way too fast for me!  I noticed that your set is on two CDs though.


Sadly, it's in my pile to sell or give away.  :(

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Well Gergiev's Nutcrackers is well within the realm of what is considered the balletic tempo. You never heard Järvi's take I guess, he's probably delivered the fastest performance around, and I love it. Gergiev is a slug compared with Jarvi. But then again I have countless Nutcracker's in my collection and love them all.
And lets not forget that both performances I mentioned are concert performances, and therefore tempi are faster as with a ballet dancing to it. There are plenty that do and therefore the tempi are far slower.
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« Reply #29682 on: September 21, 2021, 10:00:49 AM »
Complete ballet on 1 CD is quite the giveaway. When Gergiev was good, he was very good. But he could be responsible for some turkeys.

O, believe me Karl, Gergiev is good in this performance. I heard him live doing it, many years ago in St Petersburg.
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« Reply #29683 on: September 21, 2021, 10:03:53 AM »
O, believe me Karl, Gergiev is good in this performance. I heard him live doing it, many years ago in St Petersburg.

Thanks for the word, Harry!
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« Reply #29684 on: September 21, 2021, 10:13:28 AM »
This 2015 performance is about 3 minutes slower than the earlier Philips recording.

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« Reply #29685 on: September 21, 2021, 04:02:59 PM »


Complete music for l’Arlésienne, including the connecting recited and sung parts.


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« Reply #29686 on: September 21, 2021, 05:32:16 PM »


Complete music for l’Arlésienne, including the connecting recited and sung parts.


I remember hearing the complete music for L'Arlesienne (I have no memory of who the performers were, but I think it included everything on this Belgian CD) on the radio many years ago.
Puts the familiar suites in a very different perspective.
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This was probably the one I heard
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« Reply #29687 on: September 21, 2021, 09:40:05 PM »
Will be interested in hearing how you like Gergiev's "Nutcracker".  I have this recording with the Kirov and hated it; way too fast for me!  I noticed that your set is on two CDs though.


Sadly, it's in my pile to sell or give away.  :(

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I profoundly disliked it as wel...

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« Reply #29688 on: September 21, 2021, 09:48:27 PM »
I profoundly disliked it as wel...

Well well now I am interested, why did you dislike it?
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« Reply #29689 on: September 22, 2021, 01:28:54 AM »
Well Gergiev's Nutcrackers is well within the realm of what is considered the balletic tempo. You never heard Järvi's take I guess, he's probably delivered the fastest performance around, and I love it. Gergiev is a slug compared with Jarvi. But then again I have countless Nutcracker's in my collection and love them all.
And lets not forget that both performances I mentioned are concert performances, and therefore tempi are faster as with a ballet dancing to it. There are plenty that do and therefore the tempi are far slower.
To all,

For me, I suspect that it's because I think of it in terms of being a ballet--probably from a combo of seeing it when I was young, older recordings of it that I grew up with, performances that I've seen on t.v., etc.  Been quite a while since I listened to it (the recording in question), but it just felt very rushed to me.  All of the charm, delicacy, delight and magic in it were blasted through (Sorry!).  :(

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« Reply #29690 on: September 22, 2021, 02:56:51 AM »
Sadly, it's in my pile to sell or give away.  :(

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That is my reaction to most Gergiev. :laugh:

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« Reply #29691 on: September 22, 2021, 03:00:58 AM »
That is my reaction to most Gergiev. :laugh:
I'll bear that in mind next time I see one of his discs for sale.  ;)  And, well, at least I purchased it used--so I expect that I'll be using it as a trade-in back at the store where I purchased it.

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« Reply #29692 on: September 22, 2021, 12:30:11 PM »
Damn, I liked that Gergiev Nutcracker, though it's my only one.

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« Reply #29693 on: September 22, 2021, 12:32:31 PM »
Damn, I liked that Gergiev Nutcracker, though it's my only one.

No fear I like it too! :)
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« Reply #29694 on: September 22, 2021, 12:33:41 PM »
No fear I like it too! :)

The stamp of approval from Tchaikovsky himself. I like it ;D

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« Reply #29695 on: September 22, 2021, 01:05:51 PM »
Damn, I liked that Gergiev Nutcracker, though it's my only one.
Sorry!  I probably should give it another go.

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« Reply #29696 on: September 22, 2021, 05:28:51 PM »
This landed today.


It's in original jacket format, which means there are several recordings in the set by performers without the JSQ. I thought it might be helpful to list them here.

D. Milhaud: La Muse ménagère Op 245--the pianist is the composer himself. [CD 1]

Ingolf Dahl: "Concerto a tre" for clarinet, violin and cello--Mitchell Lurie, clarinet; Eudice Shapiro*, violin; Victor Gottlieb*, cello [CD 7]

L. Kirchner: String Quartet No. 1--American Arts Quartet [CD 11]

W. Schuman: Voyage--Beveridge Webster, piano [CD 14]

S. Barber: Hermit Songs--Leontyne Price with the composer as pianist [CD 15]

L. Foss: String Quartet No. 1 in G Major--American Arts Quartet [CD 16]

*members of the American Arts Quartet. The other two members of AAQ were Robert Sushel, violin and Virginia Majewski, viola.

Works in which JSQ perform with others are as follows:

D. Milhaud: Cantate de l'enfant et de la mère Op 185: with Madeleine Milhaud narrator, Leonid Hambro piano, the composer conducting [CD 1]

A. Copland:  Sextet for Clarinet, Piano and String Quartet (arrangement of Short Symphony): with David Oppenheim, clarinet and Leonid Hambro piano [CD 6]

Schoenberg: String Quartet No. 2: with Uta Graf soprano [CD 9, as part of the complete Schoenberg cycle]

There's one work in which three members of the JSQ perform and are credited as individuals:

E. Kohs: Concerto for Viola and String Nonet K28
Ferenc Molnar solo viola
Robert Mann, Robert Koff, Francis Chaplin, Ralph Shapey violins
Raphael Hillyer, Spinoza Paeff violas
Charles McCracken, C. Ziegler cellos
Stuart Sankey double bass
[CD 6]

And to round it off the rest of the set:
Bartok String Quartets 1-6 [CDs2-4]
Berg Lyric Suite [CD 5]
Berg String Quartet Op. 3 [CD 10]
W. Bergsma String Quartet No. 3 [CD 16]
I. Fine String Quartet [CD 11]
A. Haieff String Quartet No. 1 [CD 15]
A. Imbrie String Quartet No. 1 in B Flat Major [CD 12]
P. Mennin String Quartet No. 2 [CD 12]
Mozart  String Quartets 20 "Hoffmeister" K 499 and 21 "Prussian No 1" K 575 [CD 13]
Ravel String Quartet in F Major M 35 [CD 5]
Schoenberg String Quartets 1-4. [CD 8-10]
W. Schuman String Quartet No. 4 [CD 7]
V. Thomson String Quartet No. 2 [CD 14]
Webern 5 Movements for String Quarter Op. 5 [CD 10]



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« Reply #29698 on: September 23, 2021, 12:05:05 AM »
Ordered before they go up in price again!
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« Reply #29699 on: September 23, 2021, 02:41:16 AM »
The stamp of approval from Tchaikovsky himself. I like it ;D

Better listen (also) to another recording,for example Antal Dorati to make up your (own) mind. Dorati has two recording,one with the London Symphony Orchestra,the other with the Concertgebouw orchestra.