April 2013 Is Impressionism/Expressionism Month!

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Quote from: Lisztianwagner on March 20, 2013, 09:17:49 AM
I will certainly include some Delius, as well as Ravel, Debussy, Respighi, Scriabin, Szymanowski, RVW, Roussel and Bax.

Sounds good, Ilaria.

Karl Henning

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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
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His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: Brian on March 20, 2013, 08:15:06 AM
It's almost like you love Delius. (I'd guess one of them was meant to be Debussy...)

Even a fan of Delius finds it hard to remember him sometimes.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

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Quote from: North Star on March 20, 2013, 09:07:53 AM

What is Expressionist music anyway? 2nd VS?

Characteristics of expressionism in music:
* episodic, fragmentary form and structure
* abrupt musical language
* clashing dissonances
* interest in common man
* tonality, triadic harmony, and consonance vs. dissonance are not valid anymore
* abstract procedures
* great emotional intensity

Yes, early Schoenberg and Berg definitely count here. Webern not so much. The guy didn't compose anything worthy of attention anyway. I think we can also include Krenek and Hartmann in this Expressionistic context. Mahler was mentioned and he is a good choice as would be some of Schreker's music.

madaboutmahler

I am definitely definitely in!! Looking forward to revisiting favourites as well as exploring much music by Delius, de Falla, Vaughan Williams, Szymanowski etc :)
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

Karl Henning

Quote. . . Webern not so much. The guy didn't compose anything worthy of attention anyway.

ROFL
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

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Quote from: madaboutmahler on March 20, 2013, 09:51:46 AM
I am definitely definitely in!! Looking forward to revisiting favourites as well as exploring much music by Delius, de Falla, Vaughan Williams, Szymanowski etc :)

I figured you'd be up to this, Daniel! :D

madaboutmahler

Quote from: Mirror Image on March 20, 2013, 09:53:21 AM
I figured you'd be up to this, Daniel! :D

I was very pleased to see this month had been created! :D

I'm going to be wanting to explore De Falla. Can I have one or two recording recommendations please?
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Mirror Image on March 20, 2013, 09:47:20 AM

Yes, early Schoenberg and Berg definitely count here. Webern not so much. The guy didn't compose anything worthy of attention anyway.

The 6 Pieces op.6, the 5 Pieces op.10...definitely expressionism, and definitely great music. Your dismissal of Webern is....well, I won't express my feelings  :D ;)

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

North Star

Quote from: Mirror Image on March 20, 2013, 09:47:20 AM
Characteristics of expressionism in music:
* episodic, fragmentary form and structure
* abrupt musical language
* clashing dissonances
* interest in common man
* tonality, triadic harmony, and consonance vs. dissonance are not valid anymore
* abstract procedures
* great emotional intensity

Yes, early Schoenberg and Berg definitely count here. Webern not so much. The guy didn't compose anything worthy of attention anyway. I think we can also include Krenek and Hartmann in this Expressionistic context. Mahler was mentioned and he is a good choice as would be some of Schreker's music.
Thanks, John, this seems to be what several web sources say, too.
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Quote from: madaboutmahler on March 20, 2013, 10:00:59 AM
I was very pleased to see this month had been created! :D

I'm going to be wanting to explore De Falla. Can I have one or two recording recommendations please?

de Falla is a favorite of mine, Daniel. Two recording recommendations? Sure! Here you go:




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Quote from: North Star on March 20, 2013, 10:03:25 AM
Thanks, John, this seems to be what several web sources say, too.

No problem, Karlo. I got it from a website. So just a simple copy/paste.

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Quote from: Sergeant Rock on March 20, 2013, 10:03:02 AM
The 6 Pieces op.6, the 5 Pieces op.10...definitely expressionism, and definitely great music. Your dismissal of Webern is....well, I won't express my feelings  :D ;)

Sarge

I've never been a fan of Webern. I do like a lot of Schoenberg and I love Berg's music.

North Star

Quote from: Mirror Image on March 20, 2013, 10:12:01 AM
I've never been a fan of Webern. I do like a lot of Schoenberg and I love Berg's music.
Not even Langsamer Satz ???
"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it." - Confucius

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Brahmsian

Can Chausson and Faure also count as Impressionism?  I was going to declare April 2013 French composer month, but I'm happy someone else prevented me from my gluttony of monthly proclamations!  ;D

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Quote from: ChamberNut on March 20, 2013, 10:15:48 AM
Can Chausson and Faure also count as Impressionism?  I was going to declare April 2013 French composer month, but I'm happy someone else prevented me from my gluttony of monthly proclamations!  ;D

Faure and Chausson were both pre-cursors to Impressionism and very much Romantic composers.

madaboutmahler

Quote from: Mirror Image on March 20, 2013, 10:05:49 AM
de Falla is a favorite of mine, Daniel. Two recording recommendations? Sure! Here you go:





Thanks, John! These two look great! :)
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

Brahmsian


Brian

Quote from: Mirror Image on March 20, 2013, 09:47:20 AMWebern not so much. The guy didn't compose anything worthy of attention anyway.
I nominate May to be "Unworthy Month": Webern, Mozart, J.S. Bach, and Francois Bayle.

Brahmsian

Quote from: Brian on March 20, 2013, 10:37:52 AM
I nominate May to be "Unworthy Month": Webern, Mozart, J.S. Bach, and Francois Bayle.

:laugh: