Behold, the Sea.

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Bogey

Quote from: vandermolen on May 28, 2013, 05:37:15 AM
I also like the Sea Interludes - especially in the Previn EMI recording.

This is a fine 'Sea Music' CD:
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GREAT disc!
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Bogey

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kishnevi

Quote from: listener on May 31, 2013, 05:31:51 PM
Just noticed I had overlooked ROENTGEN's Een liedje van de see which I can't remember (or was unmemorable) on a cpo disc with his Symphony no.15
and BANTOCK's The Sea Reivers.

After having gone through a Roentgen kick courtesy of CPO,  I'm not quite tempted to say that "unmemorable" applies to much of his output.

Nominees:
Barber's setting of "Dover Beach"
the opening scene of Otello, up through the first entrance (and almost immediately thereafter, first exit) of Otello.
And not quite a depiction of the sea,  but an opera entirely set on a ship at sea must count for something:  Britten's Billy Budd.

Ten thumbs

Two very different representations of the sea:

Schubert - Meeres-stille

Grieg - Peer Gynt's homecoming, Stormy evening on the coast

Another aspect of the sea from Grieg's compatriot and friend:

Backer-Grøndahl - I Baaden (In the Boat) Op.39.5
An impressionist piece evoking the rocking of the boat and the lapping waves.
(There is also another piece with this title in Op.63)

As far as I'm aware, Schubert never actually saw the sea!
A day may be a destiny; for life
Lives in but little—but that little teems
With some one chance, the balance of all time:
A look—a word—and we are wholly changed.

vandermolen

#44
Thanks for the very interesting suggestions.

Two more I can think of are:

Kleiberg, 'The Bell Reef' Symphony (a recommendation through this group) and a powerfully evocative work and Natanael Berg's Symphiny No 1, which commemorates the Titanic disaster.
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"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

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Karl Henning

Quote from: val on May 31, 2013, 01:08:39 AM
Another work about the sea: "Tragic History of the Sea" of the greatest Portuguese composer of the second half of the XX century, Lopes Graça. A very powerful work, not only about the sea but also about the tragic destiny of the people who defied it..

I like Braga Santos so very well, that I am most pleased to learn of this Lopes Graça, thanks.
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Composer & Clarinetist
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nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Parsifal

I happened to listen to Glazunov's La Mer recently and it is a beautiful piece.  More conventional than Debussy's, but well crafted.  Surprizingly I'm having trouble finding any alternative to the recording I have.

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DavidRoss

Bridge, you bet.  Debussy, you bet. Sibelius, Oceanides, Luonnotar, and the Tempest, you betchyer sweet bippy!

And let's not forget Piston, 1st movement of Three New England Sketches, along with Bantock, and Bax's Garden of Fand and (Tintagel?).
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listener

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on May 31, 2013, 06:33:37 PM
After having gone through a Roentgen kick courtesy of CPO,  I'm not quite tempted to say that "unmemorable" applies to much of his output.
Only that piece, at the moment.
add to the list: J.A.. CARPENTER: Sea Drift   like Debussy but with irregular phrase combinations more like waves coming in and returning. 
"Keep your hand on the throttle and your eye on the rail as you walk through life's pathway."

vandermolen

Quote from: Parsifal on June 01, 2013, 06:12:37 AM
I happened to listen to Glazunov's La Mer recently and it is a beautiful piece.  More conventional than Debussy's, but well crafted.  Surprizingly I'm having trouble finding any alternative to the recording I have.

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I think there is a recording on Naxos.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

kishnevi

Quote from: vandermolen on June 01, 2013, 04:07:41 AM
Thanks for the very interesting suggestions.

Two more I can think of are:

Kleiberg, 'The Bell Reef' Symphony (a recommendation through this group) and a powerfully evocative work and Natanael Berg's Symphony No 1, which commemorates the Titanic disaster.

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Which suggested to CPO's art department to use a painting of what seems to be a Holland America Line ship and a P&O ship for the cover (I can't read the ship's name on the left,  but it's certainly not Titanic!)

listener

Quote from: vandermolen on June 01, 2013, 12:43:03 PM
I think there is a recording on Naxos.
also Chandos CHAN 8611  Neeme Järvi, Scottish National Orch.
and o.o.p. probably Melodiya OCD 114  Gennady Provatorov, USSR Radio Symphony Orch.
"Keep your hand on the throttle and your eye on the rail as you walk through life's pathway."

Parsifal

Quote from: listener on June 01, 2013, 01:24:15 PM
also Chandos CHAN 8611  Neeme Järvi, Scottish National Orch.
and o.o.p. probably Melodiya OCD 114  Gennady Provatorov, USSR Radio Symphony Orch.

I also have the Jarvi, which is an interesting contrast.  I'm looking at a recording by the Singapore Philharmonic.

otare

A few others:

Sir Granville Bantock - Hebridean sea poem 1 and 2 (Caristiona, The Sea reivers)
Charles Villiers Stanford - Songs of the sea, op. 91
Ethel Smyth - The Wreckers
Cyril Scott - Neptune, Poem of the sea
Gerhard Schjeldrup - Symphony no. 2, To Norway - The first movement is called The sea
Charles Ives - At sea
Edward Elgar - Sea pictures
Frederick Delius - Sea drift

and of course a lot of songs about the seashore etc...

vandermolen

Quote from: Parsifal on June 01, 2013, 02:54:39 PM
I also have the Jarvi, which is an interesting contrast.  I'm looking at a recording by the Singapore Philharmonic.

There is a Svetlanov recording too on another sea based CD also featuring the fine Ciurlionis work and the Debussy.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Christo

Oops. Forgot another fine sea disc, starting with Estonian composer Veljo Tormis' Ocean (an orchestral suite from a play), turning into Debussy's sea and finishing with two swans: Swan Flight, again by Veljo Tormis, and the one from the river of death, or Tuonela. Recommended.
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pjme



Carl Vine wrote a ballet for the Queensland ballet in 1990. The full score ( for small orchestra + electronics) ran to 90 minutes, the suite for symphony orchestra lasts about 20 mins. : Overture,Prospero & Miranda,The conspirators,Ferdinand & Miranda, Prospero relents,Finale.
Music with a heavy "cinematic" perfume : the waves glitter, tender flute melodies intertwine, piccolo and drums give the finale an energetic ( think of a documentary with sailing ships and dolphins!) character.
P.

listener

Howard HANSON's  Symphony no.7 is "A Sea Symphony"  (1977)
"Keep your hand on the throttle and your eye on the rail as you walk through life's pathway."

Sean

The fact is guys we came from the sea and look like returning to it all too badly- Rhein to Gotter...

Karl Henning

Save for the landlubbers.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot