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Parsifal

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Quote from: Seanyet each building collapsed in about 10 seconds, indistinguishable from free-fall; the collapse I expect is analysable for acceleration.
Quote from: Parsifal on June 10, 2013, 11:46:39 PMThat is simply not true.  The building did not come down in free fall.  It came down at roughly constant velocity.  This is obvious because debris ejected from the building as each floor pancakes does experience free fall and you can see it descending faster than the progress of the building collapse.

Quote from: MishaK on June 11, 2013, 07:02:36 AMNope. The fall took well over 10 seconds, more like 13 or 14. You just can't see very well due to the dust clouds and the buildings in the foreground. But you can see clearly pieces of facade falling faster than the rest of the towers, which plainly refutes the "free fall" nonsense. Also, in controlled demolition, buildings don't fall at "free fall speed" either, whatever that is supposed to be. A collapse is a collapse. This is simply bunk science on every level.

To illustrate, look at this picture



Look to the left of the tower, where a sizable chunk of the steel facade of the building is falling.  It visible just above the shorter building in the immediately forground of the tower.  That piece of dibris is in free-fall.  Notice it is below the progress of the collapse and therefore tha piece of dibris must be falling faster than the progress of the collapse.  The collapse is obviously slower than free-fall.

Can you understand this simple argument?
 

MishaK

Quote from: Parsifal on June 11, 2013, 08:38:54 AM
Too illustrate, look at this picture



Look to the left of the tower, where a sizable chunk of the steel facade of the building is falling.  It visible just above the shorter building in the immediately forground of the tower.  That piece of dibris is in free-fall.  Notice it is below the progress of the collapse and therefore tha piece of dibris must be falling faster than the progress of the collapse.  The collapse is obviously slower than free-fall.

Can you understand this simple argument?


That pic is great. There is actually lots of debris on both sides of the building falling faster than the rest of the structure. The building is not falling in free fall. q.e.d.

ibanezmonster

Lol, it will be interesting to see what Sean's counter-argument to that picture will be.

snyprrr

Quote from: Sean on June 10, 2013, 12:53:02 PM
If you put a cigarette lighter to the end of a spoon you have to drop the spoon instantly- heat is just conducted away.

You're saying the entire steel framework throughout the buildings was softened by a few dozen gallons of jet fuel?

The fact is that most people will accept any garbage rationalization to prop up their worldview.

The all would need to see pics of Buish Senor & Mejor b***f****** 6th graders in order to believe anything. Sean, since all the Presidents are technically related to each other, and all Media is owned by 6 Corps., and US elected a community organizer twice,... you can trust everything that Popular Science (Chertoff) (or was that Mechanics?) and The Washington Post, I meAN NYTIMES...

Take this Snow down guy today. Apparently he's a lifer,... maybe he's just there to make 'whistleblowers' look like 'traitors'?? So they can scare the reporters more??

How many of the Posters here have gubmint jobs... sorry, careers???

Hey kids, wanna spy on yer neighbors??


Most Knee Yakkas believe the demo theory, so, whatever, you can bask in AmeriKa while it lasts.

Look, BOTH SIDES have pretty well geared up for the NEXT incident. Whatever it is that happens, there will be those who slavishly believe whatever Blitzer tells them (which he was told to say by his Masters the Editors (remember the 6 Media Companies that Control Most All Media?)). Then there are those who will pick every motive apart. I call the second group inquisitive minded. What of the first group? Dirty stinky muslims make perfect bogies for the pearly 'white' of NY and LA,... yea, you heard me.

If Israel is behind Stormfront, then Israel is behind 911. Anyone here from WPB???


Assholes are trying to link people who simply do their homework with 'conspiracy theorists' to make anyone who questions anything to look crazy to their peers.

All we can hope for is that the takeover happens quickly and all the libtards are executed in one night. Sure, we'll die in concentration camps, but, hey, I fully expect to be gulliotined(sic) for my Beliefs, if that's where we're heading.

Barry Bush

Any other building and they'd ALL say it was demo. Who was the landlord? Silverman, said "Pull it?" Pull my finger!!!!!!

MishaK

Quote from: snyprrr on June 11, 2013, 09:36:05 AM
Take this Snow down guy today. Apparently he's a lifer,... maybe he's just there to make 'whistleblowers' look like 'traitors'?? So they can scare the reporters more??

Fantastic! Now even the guys who turn their back on the apparatus are in on the conspiracy! This is ultimate hysteria. Foul is fair and fair is foul.

Quote from: snyprrr on June 11, 2013, 09:36:05 AM
but, hey, I fully expect to be gulliotined(sic) for my Beliefs, if that's where we're heading.

How quaintly romantic. I fear you're nowhere near important enough, nor are your beliefs threatening enough to anyone to merit that much effort.

PS: you may want to check what sic means. You use it in peculiar ways.

Parsifal

Quote from: snyprrr on June 11, 2013, 09:36:05 AMbut, hey, I fully expect to be gulliotined(sic) for my Beliefs, if that's where we're heading.

You'd have to express your beliefs cogently enough for someone to comprehend them, so I think you are safe.   :D

Karl Henning

Quote from: MishaK on June 11, 2013, 09:45:31 AM
PS: you may want to check what sic means. You use it in peculiar ways.

Inconceivable!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Brian

Quote from: snyprrr on June 11, 2013, 09:36:05 AM
How many of the Posters here have gubmint jobs... sorry, careers???

I have a government job.

I am copying down all your posts and reporting them to my masters.

I am telling you this because you've been on GMG a long time and I don't like it when I have to call for a rendition of someone I know.

This is your only warning.

Karl Henning

Well, we all work for the government, really. It's the government of, by and for the people.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

snyprrr

Quote from: karlhenning on June 11, 2013, 10:39:15 AM
Well, we all work for the government, really. It's the government of, by and for the people.

They died hundreds of years ago, just like the naaazis.

snyprrr

Quote from: Parsifal on June 11, 2013, 09:52:23 AM
You'd have to express your beliefs cogently enough for someone to comprehend them, so I think you are safe.   :D

Have you ever seen Vincent Price as the 'Witchfinder General'? :laugh:

snyprrr

I'm eating veggie samosas and cheese naan... oh, wait,... wrong Thread...

snyprrr

Quote from: MishaK on June 11, 2013, 09:45:31 AM
Fantastic! Now even the guys who turn their back on the apparatus are in on the conspiracy! This is ultimate hysteria. Foul is fair and fair is foul.

Well, you know he dint reeeally say anything that people who have simply been keeping abreast of Current Issues for the last, oh, 10 years doesn't know. You seem to think the IC is made of dolts? Remember when we imported the naaazis after ww2, those smart naaazis who ver perfectink der mind kontrol methods,... eh, herr mischa? nein? IC is made up of... oh wait, tell me, WHICH NATION'S 'CIA''s mottot is 'Waar by decepcion"??????

waaar by de-cept (cion)

If IIII can do this, haha, you don't think gubs would pay hi dolla for the DeNiro character in 'Wag the Dog'>

I know, it's ONLY a movie. Keep telling yourself that when you leave the theater.

MishaK

Quote from: snyprrr on June 11, 2013, 11:05:26 AM
Well, you know he dint reeeally say anything that people who have simply been keeping abreast of Current Issues for the last, oh, 10 years doesn't know.

This I actually agree with. However, that goes more to show that he is just a lowly outside contractor employee, not someone who's part of a vast conspiracy, Herr Scharfschütze.

Parsifal

Quote from: Greg on June 11, 2013, 08:59:01 AM
Lol, it will be interesting to see what Sean's counter-argument to that picture will be.

Looks like Sean has made himself scarce.  Maybe he's studying physic books.  I suggest he start with Galileo and his experiment at the tower of Piza.

kishnevi

Quote from: Parsifal on June 11, 2013, 08:02:05 PM
Looks like Sean has made himself scarce.  Maybe he's studying physic books.  I suggest he start with Galileo and his experiment at the tower of Piza.

See Reply 119. 
Apparently he defines "vitriol" as "argument based on facts".

snyprrr

Quote from: MishaK on June 11, 2013, 11:51:00 AM
This I actually agree with. However, that goes more to show that he is just a lowly outside contractor employee, not someone who's part of a vast conspiracy, Herr Scharfschütze.

I vill tell you that I got some interesting local info on this guy. You know, I grew up in Defence Contractor Heaven, so, it's really no surprise who he is. No, this guy could be a gung ho lifer simply following orders (do you not watch movies for the last 30 years??).

He has what?, some 'Save-the-Internet-from-Spooks' sticker on his laptop, but is reading Cheney's auto?

He's holed up in a Hong Kong hotel with the CIA right down the road??? He's actually gonna eat the room service??? Come on, he could be deep cover, that's all. Manufacture consent.

Apparently, even the German's are wondering about our Stasi tactics!!

Anyway, what's the guy's name, Binney?, who 'leaked' all this last summer?


Yea, you see life differently in Defence Contractor Heaven, Mischa. Have you seen 'Lord of War'???



Remember in 'Disctrict 9', how the Jamaican wanted to EAT the alien??? Well, what if it's really old grey four star generals who get to do all that fun stuff???? Why is the Medal of Honor an UPSIDE DOWN FIVE POINTED STAR??, known through every metal band in history as Satan's Coolest Symbol??? why why why

I mean, peter pan and fiberglass, it doesn't matter that you don't do anything wrong. Once they target you, God only knows. YOU don't get to choose what's illegal. It's the naaaaaazzzzzziiiiiiiiiiiiisssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!


uh,... what's this Thread about again???

The new erato

Quote from: snyprrr on June 11, 2013, 08:20:30 PM

uh,... what's this Thread about again???
We all know what this thread is about, but some of us are wondering what your posts are about.

North Star

Quote from: The new erato on June 11, 2013, 11:34:20 PM
We all know what who this thread is about, but some of us are wondering what your posts are about.
This is thread of Sean, by Sean, for Sean. I don't think we should hope that it shall not perish from the Earth, though.
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Karl Henning

Quote from: The new erato on June 11, 2013, 11:34:20 PM
We all know what this thread is about, but some of us are wondering what your posts are about.

There may never be a satisfactory answer, so I am set to enjoy the ride in any event.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot