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Offline Ten thumbs

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Re: Music alike Rachmaninov's Piano Concerti
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2013, 12:27:49 AM »
All this geography is very interesting but doesn't prove the point. One should look into Bortkiewicz himself. I was born in Wales but am not Welsh. No doubt many Russians were born in the Ukraine and visa versa.

I love the Medtner concertos, incidentally, and they are each so individual.
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Re: Music alike Rachmaninov's Piano Concerti
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2013, 04:58:28 AM »
I would recommend the Piano Concerto by Hamilton Harty:

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Re: Music alike Rachmaninov's Piano Concerti
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2013, 05:04:37 AM »
All this geography is very interesting but doesn't prove the point. One should look into Bortkiewicz himself. I was born in Wales but am not Welsh. No doubt many Russians were born in the Ukraine and visa versa.

As one can tell from the name, Bortkiewicz was of a Polish family (living in The Ukraine) and he later studied in St. Petersburg. 
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Re: Music alike Rachmaninov's Piano Concerti
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2013, 06:12:56 AM »
Being an ardent Rachmaninov fan, I have constantly been on the lookout for piano concertos in his general style. Some I have come across that have not already been mentioned include:

-York Bowen (1884-1961): Four piano concertos (Dutton and Hyperion CDs)
-Josef Holbrooke (1878-1958): Piano Concerto no. 1 in F minor The Song of Gwyn ap Nudd (Hyperion CD)
-Haydn Wood (1882-1959): Piano Concerto in D minor (Hyperion CD)
-Vittorio Giannini (1903-1966): Piano Concerto in D minor (Naxos CD)
-Andre Mathieu (1929-1968): Piano Concerto no. 4 in E minor and Concerto de Quebec (Analekta CDs)
-Nicolas Flagello (1928-1994): Piano Concerto no. 1 (Naxos CD) (his second and third have traces of Rachmaninov, but are a bit more dissonant)
-Dmitri Kabalevsky (1904-1987): Piano Concerto no. 1 in A minor (Chandos, Naxos and CPO CDs)
-Selim Palmgren (1878-1951): Five piano concertos (Finlandia CDs)
-Halfdan Cleve (1879-1951): Five piano concertos (all are on YouTube)
-Artur Lemba (1885-1963): Five piano concertos (no. 1 on Finlandia CD; 2 and 5 are on YouTube)
-Janis Medins (1890-1966): Piano Concerto in C minor (on YouTube)
-Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco (1895-1968): Piano Concerto no. 2 in F major (Naxos CD)
-Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978): Five piano concertos (no. 1 especially; all on YouTube)
-Kurt Atterberg (1887-1974): Piano Concerto in B-flat minor (CPO and Sterling CDs)
-Natanael Berg (1879-1957): Piano Concerto in C-sharp minor (Sterling CD)
-Sir Arthur Bliss (1891-1975): Piano Concerto in B-flat major (Naxos and EMI CDs)
-Ernst Linko (1889-1960): Piano Concerto no. 2 (on YouTube)
-Heckel Tavares (1896-1969): Piano Concerto no. 2 in Brazilian Forms (Brana Records CD)
-Heitor Villa-Lobos (1887-1959): Five piano concertos (Decca CDs)
-Healey Willan (1880-1968): Piano Concerto in C minor (CBC CD and on YouTube)
-Issay Dobrowen (1891-1953): Piano Concerto in C-sharp minor (Simax CD)
-Pedro Villaroig (1954-): Piano Concerto (Verso CD)
-Manuel Blancafort (1897-1987): Concierto iberico (Columna Musica CD)
-Rudolf Tobias (1873-1918): Piano Concerto in D minor (on YouTube)
-Ilmari Hannikainen (1892-1955): Piano Concerto in B-flat minor (on YouTube)
-Janusz Sent (1936-): Two piano concertos (on YouTube)
-Dora Pejacevic (1888-1923): Phantasie Concertante for Piano and Orchestra in F-sharp minor (CPO CD) and Piano Concerto in G minor (on YouTube)
-Ludomir Rozycki (1883-1953): Two pianos concertos (Acte Preable CDs)
-Tyzen Hsiao (1938-): Piano Concerto in C minor (Angelok CD and on YouTube)
-Henryk Wars (1902-1977): Piano Concerto (on YouTube)
 
That's a start ;D
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Re: Music alike Rachmaninov's Piano Concerti
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2013, 10:00:19 AM »
Being an ardent Rachmaninov fan, I have constantly been on the lookout for piano concertos in his general style. Some I have come across that have not already been mentioned include:

-York Bowen (1884-1961): Four piano concertos (Dutton and Hyperion CDs)
-Josef Holbrooke (1878-1958): Piano Concerto no. 1 in F minor The Song of Gwyn ap Nudd (Hyperion CD)
-Haydn Wood (1882-1959): Piano Concerto in D minor (Hyperion CD)
-Vittorio Giannini (1903-1966): Piano Concerto in D minor (Naxos CD)
-Andre Mathieu (1929-1968): Piano Concerto no. 4 in E minor and Concerto de Quebec (Analekta CDs)
-Nicolas Flagello (1928-1994): Piano Concerto no. 1 (Naxos CD) (his second and third have traces of Rachmaninov, but are a bit more dissonant)
-Dmitri Kabalevsky (1904-1987): Piano Concerto no. 1 in A minor (Chandos, Naxos and CPO CDs)
-Selim Palmgren (1878-1951): Five piano concertos (Finlandia CDs)
-Halfdan Cleve (1879-1951): Five piano concertos (all are on YouTube)
-Artur Lemba (1885-1963): Five piano concertos (no. 1 on Finlandia CD; 2 and 5 are on YouTube)
-Janis Medins (1890-1966): Piano Concerto in C minor (on YouTube)
-Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco (1895-1968): Piano Concerto no. 2 in F major (Naxos CD)
-Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978): Five piano concertos (no. 1 especially; all on YouTube)
-Kurt Atterberg (1887-1974): Piano Concerto in B-flat minor (CPO and Sterling CDs)
-Natanael Berg (1879-1957): Piano Concerto in C-sharp minor (Sterling CD)
-Sir Arthur Bliss (1891-1975): Piano Concerto in B-flat major (Naxos and EMI CDs)
-Ernst Linko (1889-1960): Piano Concerto no. 2 (on YouTube)
-Heckel Tavares (1896-1969): Piano Concerto no. 2 in Brazilian Forms (Brana Records CD)
-Heitor Villa-Lobos (1887-1959): Five piano concertos (Decca CDs)
-Healey Willan (1880-1968): Piano Concerto in C minor (CBC CD and on YouTube)
-Issay Dobrowen (1891-1953): Piano Concerto in C-sharp minor (Simax CD)
-Pedro Villaroig (1954-): Piano Concerto (Verso CD)
-Manuel Blancafort (1897-1987): Concierto iberico (Columna Musica CD)
-Rudolf Tobias (1873-1918): Piano Concerto in D minor (on YouTube)
-Ilmari Hannikainen (1892-1955): Piano Concerto in B-flat minor (on YouTube)
-Janusz Sent (1936-): Two piano concertos (on YouTube)
-Dora Pejacevic (1888-1923): Phantasie Concertante for Piano and Orchestra in F-sharp minor (CPO CD) and Piano Concerto in G minor (on YouTube)
-Ludomir Rozycki (1883-1953): Two pianos concertos (Acte Preable CDs)
-Tyzen Hsiao (1938-): Piano Concerto in C minor (Angelok CD and on YouTube)
-Henryk Wars (1902-1977): Piano Concerto (on YouTube)
 
That's a start ;D

Interesting list. I like the Bliss very much and his Concerto for two pianos. Not sure if anyone has mentioned Stanford's PC No 2 which opens like that of Rachmaninov.
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Re: Music alike Rachmaninov's Piano Concerti
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2013, 12:04:57 PM »
Interesting list. I like the Bliss very much and his Concerto for two pianos. Not sure if anyone has mentioned Stanford's PC No 2 which opens like that of Rachmaninov.

Yes, I forgot about the Stanford-thanks for mentioning it. If memory serves, his third PC also has passages reminiscent of the great Russian. I mentioned Australian composer Miriam Hyde's (1913-2005) two PCs in another thread-they're beautiful works but without a trace of originality. But that's not a bad thing when the main influence is Rachmaninov :D

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Re: Music alike Rachmaninov's Piano Concerti
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2013, 02:11:03 AM »
Yes, I forgot about the Stanford-thanks for mentioning it. If memory serves, his third PC also has passages reminiscent of the great Russian. I mentioned Australian composer Miriam Hyde's (1913-2005) two PCs in another thread-they're beautiful works but without a trace of originality. But that's not a bad thing when the main influence is Rachmaninov :D

Don't forget to look out for the Hamilton Harty, which is a very warm and inspiriting work.
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Re: Music alike Rachmaninov's Piano Concerti
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2013, 09:09:34 AM »
Don't forget to look out for the Hamilton Harty, which is a very warm and inspiriting work.

I already know the Harty; it is indeed a wonderful work. I prefer the performance on Chandos to the one on Naxos by a slight margin. The 3-disc Chandos set encompassing most of Harty's orchestral works is a real favorite of mine :)

Special mention should also go to Sergei Lyapunov's two luscious and dramatic PCs, which have been recorded by Naxos, Chandos and Hyperion.
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Re: Music alike Rachmaninov's Piano Concerti
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2013, 08:46:09 AM »
I don't know how I forgot to mention Adolf Wiklund's two gorgeously melodic PCs, recorded by Caprice and Hyperion.

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Re: Music alike Rachmaninov's Piano Concerti
« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2013, 09:54:03 AM »
I already know the Harty; it is indeed a wonderful work. I prefer the performance on Chandos to the one on Naxos by a slight margin. The 3-disc Chandos set encompassing most of Harty's orchestral works is a real favorite of mine :)

Special mention should also go to Sergei Lyapunov's two luscious and dramatic PCs, which have been recorded by Naxos, Chandos and Hyperion.

I agree with you about the Chandos recording of the Harty Concerto being best. And I too like the Lyapunov PCs.
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Re: Music alike Rachmaninov's Piano Concerti
« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2013, 10:19:37 AM »
Another Rachmaninovian concerto I forgot to mention is Otar Taktakishvili's (1924-1988) outstanding Piano Concerto no. 1 in C minor, available on this CD:



Also, George Lloyd's four PCs have resonances of Rachmaninov from time to time, especially in the earlier ones.