Vaughan Williams's Veranda

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J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: karlhenning on November 01, 2008, 07:57:28 AM
Luke's musical insights and generous warmth will be missed here, in particular, but I suspect he would not want this thread in M[othballs] Forever.

Indeed. Especially as I plan on listening to RVW's string quartets this weekend.
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

vandermolen

Quote from: Jezetha on November 01, 2008, 09:04:51 AM
Indeed. Especially as I plan on listening to RVW's string quartets this weekend.

I hope you enjoy them Johan  :)

I am looking forward to see symphs 5,6 and 9 at the Festival Hall tomorrow.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: vandermolen on November 01, 2008, 09:26:23 AM
I am looking forward to see symphs 5,6 and 9 at the Festival Hall tomorrow.

Of course! I really envy you... RVW's most perfect symphony (5th), his most compelling (6th) and his most mysterious (9th).

P.S. I'll be reporting back about the string quartets.
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

scarpia

Quote from: Jezetha on November 01, 2008, 09:04:51 AM
Indeed. Especially as I plan on listening to RVW's string quartets this weekend.

It was originally a quintet, the part for wind machine was deleted by the publisher.

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: scarpia on November 01, 2008, 12:37:13 PM
It was originally a quintet, the part for wind machine was deleted by the publisher.


;D
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Sydney Grew

Here is a candid Snap showing Dr. Williams's Approach to the Head-lice Problem:

Rule 1: assiduously address the what not the whom! Rule 2: shun bad language! Rule 3: do not deviate! Rule 4: be as pleasant as you can!

karlhenning

Is that a Benjamin Britten impersonator playing the harmonica?

Dundonnell

Quote from: karlhenning on November 01, 2008, 04:54:45 PM
Is that a Benjamin Britten impersonator playing the harmonica?

It is Larry Adler, as you probably knew?

However, he/they who go by the name of 'Sydney Grew' is guilty of a sad absence of good taste in the comment :(

vandermolen

The concert was excellent. Tallis Fantasia (preceded by an off stage choir singing the extract from Tallis on which VW based his Fantasia...a great idea), the Symphony No 9 then Three Shakespeare songs then Symphony 6 and finally Symphony 5. All excellent performances although, for me, the first movements of No 6 and 9 were taken rather fast. I have never heard a better performance of the second movement of Symphony No 6. I must reappraise my Hickox CD of this work. Orchestra was the Philharmonia.

Notwithstanding the lady behind me having a coughing fit during the Tallis Fantasia it was a great afternoon. I am now listening to VW Film Music Volume 3 on Chandos as there are pre-echoes of Symphony no 6 in a number of the pieces on the CD.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

karlhenning

Quote from: vandermolen on November 02, 2008, 01:27:51 PM
The concert was excellent. Tallis Fantasia (preceded by an off stage choir singing the extract from Tallis on which VW based his Fantasia...a great idea)

What text did they sing?

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: karlhenning on November 02, 2008, 03:08:45 PM
What text did they sing?

Remember we had a discussion about this? It was a Psalm. Don't know which one anymore.
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Dundonnell

Quote from: vandermolen on November 02, 2008, 01:27:51 PM
The concert was excellent. Tallis Fantasia (preceded by an off stage choir singing the extract from Tallis on which VW based his Fantasia...a great idea), the Symphony No 9 then Three Shakespeare songs then Symphony 6 and finally Symphony 5. All excellent performances although, for me, the first movements of No 6 and 9 were taken rather fast. I have never heard a better performance of the second movement of Symphony No 6. I must reappraise my Hickox CD of this work. Orchestra was the Philharmonia.

Notwithstanding the lady behind me having a coughing fit during the Tallis Fantasia it was a great afternoon. I am now listening to VW Film Music Volume 3 on Chandos as there are pre-echoes of Symphony no 6 in a number of the pieces on the CD.

That must have been a long programme, Jeffrey? How did you endure such a lot of RVW? ;D

Hickox gets a 'bum deal' here from some for his VW but he has done and is doing so much for the composer and is-I think-a fine conductor.

Dundonnell


J.Z. Herrenberg

Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

karlhenning

Quote from: Jezetha on November 02, 2008, 03:15:10 PM
Remember we had a discussion about this? It was a Psalm. Don't know which one anymore.

Well, different texts have been sung to that hymn-tune, and I wondered which text Jeffrey heard on this occasion.

greg

Real quick......what does everyone think about the finale of the 9th?

Mark G. Simon

Quote from: G$ on November 02, 2008, 06:29:29 PM
Real quick......what does everyone think about the finale of the 9th?

If you don't mind taking a little bit of time, you can read back through this thread. Luke was quite eloquent about the 9th and its finale. At some point I weighed in about what I like about the ending.

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: karlhenning on November 02, 2008, 03:59:20 PM
Well, different texts have been sung to that hymn-tune, and I wondered which text Jeffrey heard on this occasion.

I suspect they sang the original Tallis piece with the original words. But hopefully Jeffrey will put us all out of our misery...  :)
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

knight66

I may be proved wrong in this; but my understanding is that the orig Tallis setting alone uses the full version of his music: the third of Nine Tunes for Archbishop Parker's Psalter. 'Why Fum'th in fight the Gentiles spite.'

It is a long time since I heard VWs setting from the English Hymnal, but I seem to recall it was an adaptation; rather than Tallis' complete music simply being set to new words.

Mike
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vandermolen

Quote from: Dundonnell on November 02, 2008, 03:25:04 PM
That must have been a long programme, Jeffrey? How did you endure such a lot of RVW? ;D

Hickox gets a 'bum deal' here from some for his VW but he has done and is doing so much for the composer and is-I think-a fine conductor.

More's the point Colin, how did my wife endure so much VW? She loved Tallis and Symphony No 5+ the Shakespeare Songs however, so I am off the hook (for now). There were two 2o minute intervals, so it was a bit of a marathon.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).