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Re: Vaughan Williams's Veranda
« Reply #4860 on: November 18, 2020, 12:15:49 AM »
I'm not for defacing property, but the Churchill hagiography industry has had way too long of a run without pushback.

Yes, although I'm an admirer (for his wartime leadership and warnings about Hitler, I hasten to add) we need a balanced view. I taught a whole A Level course on Churchill in my last school and we looked at all aspects of his life and career, so I like to think that my students ended up with a balanced view. Back on subject there is a photo of the elderly VW being awarded an Honorary doctorate by Churchill at the University of Bristol.

I couldn't find the photo online but here is an account from Bristol University's Archive:
https://archives.bristol.ac.uk/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=DM270
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"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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« Reply #4861 on: November 18, 2020, 12:59:59 AM »
Yes, although I'm an admirer (for his wartime leadership and warnings about Hitler, I hasten to add) we need a balanced view. I taught a whole A Level course on Churchill in my last school and we looked at all aspects of his life and career, so I like to think that my students ended up with a balanced view. Back on subject there is a photo of the elderly VW being awarded an Honorary doctorate by Churchill at the University of Bristol.

I couldn't find the photo online but here is an account from Bristol University's Archive:
https://archives.bristol.ac.uk/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=DM270

That was some event, Jeffrey. Sir Stafford Cripps was also in attendance I noted.
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« Reply #4862 on: November 18, 2020, 01:05:20 AM »
That was some event, Jeffrey. Sir Stafford Cripps was also in attendance I noted.
Oh, I hadn't noticed that Lol. Yes indeed!
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

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« Reply #4863 on: November 18, 2020, 05:52:36 AM »
Yes, although I'm an admirer (for his wartime leadership and warnings about Hitler, I hasten to add) we need a balanced view. I taught a whole A Level course on Churchill in my last school and we looked at all aspects of his life and career, so I like to think that my students ended up with a balanced view. Back on subject there is a photo of the elderly VW being awarded an Honorary doctorate by Churchill at the University of Bristol.

I couldn't find the photo online but here is an account from Bristol University's Archive:
https://archives.bristol.ac.uk/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=DM270
Yeah, Jeffrey!  :)

Alas, I can't see the photos in your link.  Is there something else that I need to click on?  I think that I saw an error message too when I tried viewing them.   :(

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« Reply #4864 on: November 18, 2020, 10:05:56 AM »
Yeah, Jeffrey!  :)

Alas, I can't see the photos in your link.  Is there something else that I need to click on?  I think that I saw an error message too when I tried viewing them.   :(

PD

Hi PD there were no photos on the link, just a  short extract about the degree ceremony in Bristol in 1951.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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« Reply #4865 on: November 18, 2020, 10:09:05 AM »
Hi PD there were no photos on the link, just a  short extract about the degree ceremony in Bristol in 1951.
Thanks, that's what I get for not reading carefully enough!  ::)

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Re: Vaughan Williams's Veranda
« Reply #4866 on: November 22, 2020, 02:46:21 AM »
From WAYLTN thread:
Yesterday I listened to the Pearl CD of Vaughan Williams conducting his own 'Dona Nobis Pacem'. It was the first broadcast from 1936 and I found it deeply moving, more-so than the more modern recordings, good as they are. It's a pity that VW did not record more of his own music. Of the major works there is only DNP and symphonies 4 and 5. I have been fortunate to see this work live on at least two occasions, most recently at the 2018 Proms at a concert to commemorate the 100th Anniversary of the end of World War One:

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"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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« Reply #4867 on: November 22, 2020, 05:49:16 AM »
Albion Records have a project to record all of RVW's English folk song arrangements in four albums. I received Volume 1 yesterday.

I wasn't sure what to expect but was pleasantly surprised by Folk Songs from Sussex (1912). They don't really sound like folk songs and it made me wonder how much 'arranging' had been done. They brought to mind Mahler's Wunderhorn songs in their sophistication, not that RVW would thank me for that. 

Six English Folk Songs (1933) and Sea Songs (1919) were more like I expected and a lot folkier.

I have a disc from EMI - Robert Tear and others  - which I will have to revisit. As well as English songs and carols it contains French songs and songs from Newfoundland.

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Re: Vaughan Williams's Veranda
« Reply #4868 on: November 22, 2020, 08:11:03 AM »
Albion Records have a project to record all of RVW's English folk song arrangements in four albums. I received Volume 1 yesterday.

I wasn't sure what to expect but was pleasantly surprised by Folk Songs from Sussex (1912). They don't really sound like folk songs and it made me wonder how much 'arranging' had been done. They brought to mind Mahler's Wunderhorn songs in their sophistication, not that RVW would thank me for that. 

Six English Folk Songs (1933) and Sea Songs (1919) were more like I expected and a lot folkier.

I have a disc from EMI - Robert Tear and others  - which I will have to revisit. As well as English songs and carols it contains French songs and songs from Newfoundland.

You might like the Fantasia on Folk Songs from Sussex on this unusual and interesting CD. Obviously the Sussex Folk Songs have a special appeal to me as a resident of Sussex. As does the London Symphony, for someone who grew up in Central London. Sadly I have never been to the Antarctic  ;D

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"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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« Reply #4869 on: November 22, 2020, 09:20:07 AM »
You might like the Fantasia on Folk Songs from Sussex on this unusual and interesting CD. Obviously the Sussex Folk Songs have a special appeal to me as a resident of Sussex. As does the London Symphony, for someone who grew up in Central London. Sadly I have never been to the Antarctic  ;D


You can--maybe not right now, but....https://www.adventure-life.com/antarctica

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« Reply #4870 on: November 22, 2020, 09:25:56 AM »
You might like the Fantasia on Folk Songs from Sussex on this unusual and interesting CD. Obviously the Sussex Folk Songs have a special appeal to me as a resident of Sussex. As does the London Symphony, for someone who grew up in Central London. Sadly I have never been to the Antarctic  ;D



Thanks, that is an unusual collection. I have some of the pieces on it but not the 'Sussex' fantasia though it rings a bell. Will have to check out the disc.

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« Reply #4871 on: November 22, 2020, 10:56:04 AM »
Thanks, that is an unusual collection. I have some of the pieces on it but not the 'Sussex' fantasia though it rings a bell. Will have to check out the disc.

This collection of "Modern Times" recordings is uniformly excellent with the RVW disc no exception!

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« Reply #4872 on: November 23, 2020, 10:38:32 AM »
You can--maybe not right now, but....https://www.adventure-life.com/antarctica

 ;D

Lovely idea but probably too expensive and wife likes hot climates ( >:D ::))
However, I'd love to see the Northern Lights in Iceland one day/
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

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Re: Vaughan Williams's Veranda
« Reply #4873 on: November 23, 2020, 11:36:56 AM »
This collection of "Modern Times" recordings is uniformly excellent with the RVW disc no exception!
+1 listening to it now:
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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Re: Vaughan Williams's Veranda
« Reply #4874 on: November 23, 2020, 12:57:13 PM »
David Hurwitz' new take on Job on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eintcAt6kUQ&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3hb1hgnE0EFX2VJc5ULh-HoISisVU9sMAuMrlCuqYKvYi7HDLhBfENpXA

Just watched it (and the Madetoja one) with much pleasure - thanks for posting it. I'm glad that he thinks highly of the Barry Wordsworth recording on Alto.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).