Vaughan Williams's Veranda

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Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: Irons on December 17, 2023, 12:33:43 AMVW is now a solitary figure, for his influence has served but to produce a steady trickle of pentatonic wish-wash.

 >:D

The world looked a different place in 1953. I don't agree with most critique but far more interesting then musical criticism of today.
Where is that quote from Irons?

PD

Abdel Ove Allhan

Yah, I think Shosty needs to stay in his own "area".
For me, Shostakovich, like RVW implied was a purveyor of 'Wrong note music."
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jul/26/ralph-vaughan-williams-visionary-genius-lark-ascending
Music is the most essential yet practically useless endeavor in the entirety of human existence.Yet without music our existence would be comparable to the world of insects."The man that hath no music in himself Is fit for treasons, stratagems, and spoils, Let no such man be trusted."W. Shakespeare

Karl Henning

Quote from: Abdel Ove Allhan on December 17, 2023, 08:15:22 AMYah, I think Shosty needs to stay in his own "area".
Oh, then you shouldn't set stink-bombs like this:
Quote from: Abdel Ove Allhan on December 17, 2023, 08:15:22 AMFor me, Shostakovich, like RVW implied was a purveyor of 'Wrong note music."
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Abdel Ove Allhan

Just quotes. No harm, no "foul".
Music is the most essential yet practically useless endeavor in the entirety of human existence.Yet without music our existence would be comparable to the world of insects."The man that hath no music in himself Is fit for treasons, stratagems, and spoils, Let no such man be trusted."W. Shakespeare

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

DaveF

Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on December 17, 2023, 05:31:26 AMWhere is that quote from Irons?

PD

With apologies for butting in: it is attributed here https://www.classicalsource.com/prom/ralph-vaughan-williams/ to "a celebrated 1950s' record guide" (presumably Gramophone).  The full quote begins by calling VW "The biggest name in contemporary English music", so perhaps they weren't fully up-to-speed with developments over the previous 20 years or so.
"All the world is birthday cake" - George Harrison

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: DaveF on December 17, 2023, 12:47:31 PMWith apologies for butting in: it is attributed here https://www.classicalsource.com/prom/ralph-vaughan-williams/ to "a celebrated 1950s' record guide" (presumably Gramophone).  The full quote begins by calling VW "The biggest name in contemporary English music", so perhaps they weren't fully up-to-speed with developments over the previous 20 years or so.
Thank you...I'll read it in full (hopefully) a bit later...holidays!  Who runs the website and what kind of credentials do they have?  At first glance, I'm not seeing any info and I'm not familiar with it?

PD

Irons

Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on December 17, 2023, 05:31:26 AMWhere is that quote from Irons?

PD

Own up time, PD. I took that quote horribly out of context.

From 'The Record Guide' Edward Sackville-West and Desmond Shawe-Taylor.
You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.

I opened the door people rushed through and I was left holding the knob - Bo Diddley.

vandermolen

#6468
I posted enthusiastically about this CD on WAYLTN thread but I have enjoyed it so much that I thought that I'd mention it here as well. The performance of the darkly searching and eloquent String Quartet No.2 (1944) is the best I have heard. As the note-writer states it is reminiscent of the contemporary string quartets by Shostakovich, which VW almost certainly didn't know. It pre-echoes the 6th Symphony of a few years later. The Holst work was new to me but also very engaging. A fine release:
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).