Vaughan Williams's Veranda

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Tapio Dimitriyevich Shostakovich


vandermolen

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Quote from: Thom on May 22, 2008, 11:32:20 PM
I know I ask for much, but is anyone able to tape the Vaughan Williams documentary tonight on BBC4 and to  post it f.i. to rapidshare or YouTube? If what I am asking is nonsense with regard to technical barriers, then forgive me. I am no expert on video matters.

Thom

Thom

I am out tonight but I have set up the DVD to record the programme, however, something often goes horribly wrong ( as in the time when I asked my mother-in-law to record a crucial football match but she recorded a "Gardener's World" special about turnips instead (I am not joking).

If it comes out ok I haven't the faintest idea how to post it on Youtube or Rapidshare (whatever that is) but i could probably get a copy done at work and would be happy to send one to you or anyone else (within reason) who wants one.

Jeffrey

ps If it doesn't come out it will probably be available for a week on the BBC i Player and I asked one of the technicians at school today if they could copy it, if it goes wrong tonight.  He will see what he can do.

pps Good news. I've just checked the BBC 4 listings and the programme is repeated twice on Saturday. So, I should definitely be able to record it.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

Quote from: Wurstwasser on May 23, 2008, 01:11:02 AM
This cycle?



Yes, but it looks like this now:
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Thom

Quote from: vandermolen on May 23, 2008, 01:13:38 AM
Thom

I am out tonight but I have set up the DVD to record the programme, however, something often goes horribly wrong ( as in the time when I asked my mother-in-law to record a crucial football match but she recorded a "Gardener's World" special about turnips instead (I am not joking).

If it comes out ok I haven't the faintest idea how to post it on Youtube or Rapidshare (whatever that is) but i could probably get a copy done at work and would be happy to send one to you or anyone else (within reason) who wants one.

Jeffrey

ps If it doesn't come out it will probably be available for a week on the BBC i Player and I asked one of the technicians at school today if they could copy it, if it goes wrong tonight.  He will see what he can do.

pps Good news. I've just checked the BBC 4 listings and the programme is repeated twice on Saturday. So, I should definitely be able to record it.

Jeffrey, thank you very much, you're so kind! But please, only if it doesn't cost you too much time.

Thom



J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: vandermolen on May 23, 2008, 01:13:38 AM
Thom

I am out tonight but I have set up the DVD to record the programme, however, something often goes horribly wrong ( as in the time when I asked my mother-in-law to record a crucial football match but she recorded a "Gardener's World" special about turnips instead (I am not joking).

If it comes out ok I haven't the faintest idea how to post it on Youtube or Rapidshare (whatever that is) but i could probably get a copy done at work and would be happy to send one to you or anyone else (within reason) who wants one.

Jeffrey

ps If it doesn't come out it will probably be available for a week on the BBC i Player and I asked one of the technicians at school today if they could copy it, if it goes wrong tonight.  He will see what he can do.

pps Good news. I've just checked the BBC 4 listings and the programme is repeated twice on Saturday. So, I should definitely be able to record it.

Great, Jeffrey! I have an idea - if you can make a copy of the programme, send it to me. I am quite computer-savvy. I could make copies for the other Dutch members who are interested, if Thom and Christo (and Harry?) agree, that is. This scheme could 'ease your burden'...
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Christo

Quote from: Jezetha on May 23, 2008, 03:20:45 AM
if Thom and Christo (and Harry?) agree, that is.

I, at least, do 8)
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Thom

Yes of course, great idea, thanks also to Jezetha.

Thom

vandermolen

Quote from: Jezetha on May 23, 2008, 03:20:45 AM
Great, Jeffrey! I have an idea - if you can make a copy of the programme, send it to me. I am quite computer-savvy. I could make copies for the other Dutch members who are interested, if Thom and Christo (and Harry?) agree, that is. This scheme could 'ease your burden'...

Thom, Johan and Johan,

I think that the best thing is if I record it twice tomorrow (it is televised on three separate occasions) and then send one of the DVDs to Johan (Jezetha), who can then magically convert it to a format which can be viewed by everyone.  Alternatively, the helpful media technician at school says that he can copy a DVD as long as it is not a commercially available pre-recorded one. I would then be happy to drive down to Harwich and smuggle it on to the Hook of Holland ferry ;D

Jeffrey.

"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: vandermolen on May 23, 2008, 04:04:53 AM
Thom, Johan and Johan,

I think that the best thing is if I record it twice tomorrow (it is televised on three separate occasions) and then send one of the DVDs to Johan (Jezetha), who can then magically convert it to a format which can be viewed by everyone.  Alternatively, the helpful media technician at school says that he can copy a DVD as long as it is not a commercially available pre-recorded one. I would then be happy to drive down to Harwich and smuggle it on to the Hook of Holland ferry ;D

That'll suit me fine - I live very near Hook of Holland!  ;D
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Thom

Quote from: Jezetha on May 23, 2008, 04:07:24 AM
That'll suit me fine - I live very near Hook of Holland!  ;D

The same applies to me, Wassenaar <-> The Hook, can't be much more than 15 km or so  ;)

vandermolen

#370
Ok, it will be in an anonymous looking brown package, labelled "Vaughan Williams...scandalous revelations about his love life...not to be opened by those of a nervous disposition". :o
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: vandermolen on May 23, 2008, 05:16:23 AM
Ok, it will be in an anonymous looking brown package, labelled "Vaughan Williams...scandalous revelations about his love life...not to be opened by those of a nervous disposition". :o

;D

But thanks for the warning all the same - I think I'll check with my GP first.
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

vandermolen

Quote from: Jezetha on May 23, 2008, 05:43:53 AM
;D

But thanks for the warning all the same - I think I'll check with my GP first.

:)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Lethevich

Quote from: Wurstwasser on May 23, 2008, 01:11:02 AM
This cycle?



Ooh, does this mean that you are thinking about getting it? :) It is IMO an ideal intro, not just due to having strong performances all-round, but also for the exceptional amount of extra pieces it comes with - the Classics for Pleasure reissue of the cycle is very well filled out.
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

Hector

It's on before the great British "watershed" so there'll be no sex involved.

The "watershed" assumes that all kiddies and those of a particular nervous disposition will be in bed before nine o'clock (yeah, playing 'Grand Theft Auto' or watching internet porn on their laptop under the bedclothes).

Lethevich

Holy crap. I just heard an extract of Dona nobis pacem in the documentary, I need to hear the full piece asap - is there a preferred recording? I think I may find the 1936 one a bit too creaky sounding for a first listen.
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

Tapio Dimitriyevich Shostakovich

Quote from: Lethe on May 23, 2008, 06:29:32 AMOoh, does this mean that you are thinking about getting it? :)
Yes. I thought it would be a good start, just have a few VWs (Hickox, and Haitink/8) and Tallis Fantasia of Frühbeck de Burgos, which is great.

Christo

Quote from: Lethe on May 23, 2008, 11:23:39 AM
Holy crap. I just heard an extract of Dona nobis pacem in the documentary, I need to hear the full piece asap - is there a preferred recording? I think I may find the 1936 one a bit too creaky sounding for a first listen.

The 1936 Dona Nobis Pacem will be the one conducted by Vaughan Williams himself, recently released by Somn:
                                   

As for modern recordings, I myself would prefer Thomson's version on Chandos:

     

                         
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Lethevich

#378
Christo - thanks. I am slightly tempted by the following, as I also haven't heard the coupling, but I am not a great fan of Hickox...



Anyway, the documentary was wonderful, very worth watching if anyone can record and distribute it (no DVD recorder for me :(). The most important part of an RVW documentary for me is not to go overboard on the "DISPELLING MYTHS" tangent, banging on about subtexts, etc. Fortunately this one did not. It mentioned a bit about the Pastoral, but didn't even play the first movement of the 6th (commonly used for "shock effect") - instead focusing on the finale. It gave an above average overview of his vocal work, and even his conducting of Bach.

I hope that a few people who have yet to get into classical music watched it as well, as it was an excellent introduction to his work as a whole, not quite as specific as the "love life" theme implied, and the extracts were well chosen, and sometimes given a decent length of time before they get buried under interviews. I could see it as being a great gateway into people "getting" what classical has to offer.
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

not edward

Quote from: Lethe on May 23, 2008, 11:23:39 AM
Holy crap. I just heard an extract of Dona nobis pacem in the documentary, I need to hear the full piece asap - is there a preferred recording? I think I may find the 1936 one a bit too creaky sounding for a first listen.

It's a superb piece, IMO, and belies its fix-up nature (it was assembled from sections written over a rather large period of time). I've got Hickox on EMI (coupled with the equally fine if rather less immediately awe-inspiring Sancta Civitas) and I notice it appears to be for sale for four quid at Amazon.co.uk. ;)
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
-- Aaron Copland, The Pleasures of Music