Brahms sucks. Who should take his place in the 3 Bs?

[springrite]

Are their some works by Brahms that you do enjoy? 

Probably the one mommy sang to put him to sleep when he was a child.

[Mirror Image]

Everyone has a right to their opinion but saying that Brahms was basically a 'hack' is one of the most uninformed, ignorant statements I've read on this board. I speak of my dislike of Mozart or Beethoven, but I wouldn't dare call them mediocrities. This thread is the result when someone clearly is trolling and doesn't genuinely have anything other than insults to bring to the table.

[Karl Henning]

Oh my, I am sorry you think of Brahms as giftless. 

And thus loses all credibility.

One can not care for the music, but not to recognize the gift in the music:  that is a pitiable lapse in acumen.

[Brian]

Berlioz!

Or Brubeck!

[Opus106]

Everyone has a right to their opinion but saying that Brahms was basically a 'hack' is one of the most uninformed, ignorant statements I've read on this board. I speak of my dislike of Mozart or Beethoven, but I wouldn't dare call them mediocrities. This thread is the result when someone clearly is trolling and doesn't genuinely have anything other than insults to bring to the table.

I think that you might be taking the OP too seriously.

[springrite]

I think that you might be taking the OP too seriously.

Well, John is always serious. You just can't always tell.

[The Six]

Everyone has a right to their opinion but saying that Brahms was basically a 'hack' is one of the most uninformed, ignorant statements I've read on this board. I speak of my dislike of Mozart or Beethoven, but I wouldn't dare call them mediocrities. This thread is the result when someone clearly is trolling and doesn't genuinely have anything other than insults to bring to the table.

Brahms mastered the art of composing without ideas, and, indeed, this acolyte here has mastered the act of posting without opinions.

Enough of this hideous game! Let Brahms be content he has found a language which gives the most persuasive expression of his mute despair: the language of the most intensive musical impotence.

[Mirror Image]

Well, John is always serious. You just can't always tell.

Not always, but in this case I am and think this member is just a troll at this juncture.

[ibanezmonster]

Leaves Brahms on. Just add more B's...

Bartok, Bruckner, Berg, etc.

[springrite]

Leaves Brahms on. Just add more B's...

Bartok, Bruckner, Berg, etc.

Instead of the Three B's, let's make it into the B52's!

[ibanezmonster]

Instead of the Three B's, let's make it into the B52's!

Well, there's a challenge. Can you think of 49 more composers whose last name end in 'B'?

[springrite]

Well, there's a challenge. Can you think of 49 more composers whose last name end in 'B'?

Of course. I may not be able to claim to have listed to much of their music, though. But I think I have probably around, say 30 to 40 B's in my collection.


There'd be more B's if we can use place, like the originator of this thread did with von Bingen. Imagine all the von Britain's we can have...

[Brian]

Well, there's a challenge. Can you think of 49 more composers whose last name end in 'B'?

off the top of my head:
J.S. Bach
C.P.E. Bach
J.C.F. Bach
J.C. Bach
Berwald
Berlioz
Bernstein
Beethoven
Blumenfeld
Borodin
Bortkiewicz
Bartok
Borne
Bizet
Brahms
Bax
Bantock

That's 17 from memory. And I forgot Bruckner, Berg, and Barber. 20.

[Karl Henning]

Heck, there are almost 52 Bachs alone. (The Bach-52s!)

[Karl Henning]

Why, there are 52 B-composers ("There's a double meaning in that") from England, alone!

[springrite]

Brian
Bowen
Boulez
Bliss
Blumdahl
Berger
Birtwhistle
von Bulow
Britten
Bridge



Well, it is 3 in the morning here and the top of my head ain't working right...

[ibanezmonster]

Of course. I may not be able to claim to have listed to much of their music, though. But I think I have probably around, say 30 to 40 B's in my collection.


There'd be more B's if we can use place, like the originator of this thread did with von Bingen. Imagine all the von Britain's we can have...

Hm. That would pretty much defeat the purpose of the small number of/most important Bs, though.

At the very least... the 4 Bs. Bruckner has to be in there.

off the top of my head:
J.S. Bach
C.P.E. Bach
J.C.F. Bach
J.C. Bach
Berwald
Berlioz
Bernstein
Beethoven
Blumenfeld
Borodin
Bortkiewicz
Bartok
Borne
Bizet
Brahms
Bax
Bantock

That's 17 from memory. And I forgot Bruckner, Berg, and Barber. 20.

And the next 29? 

[springrite]

Why, there are 52 B-composers ("There's a double meaning in that") from England, alone!

You are too generous.

I don't mean the numbers.

[Cato]

Heck, there are almost 52 Bachs alone. (The Bach-52s!)

I have not heard a note of his works, but read today a rave review of an opera composed by a certain George Benjamin.

Should he be added to the list?

[Brian]

Here's the first 52 composers starting with B who are listed on Naxos Music Library. I deleted one who was a misspelled duplicate (there were three spellings of Arno Babadjanian, whose piano trio is pretty good, by the way.)


B. Leza,
B., Batho Anna
B., Michael
Baadsvik, Anna
Baadsvik, Oystein (b. 01/01/1966)
Baas, Danielle (b. 01/01/1958)
Baba, Devran
Baba, Sidonie (b.6/30/1930 - d. 1/12/1973)
Baba, Sivas'li Sitki
Babadjanian, Arno Harutyuni (b.1/22/1921 - d. 11/11/1983)
Babaev, Andrei
Babai, Bela
Babakhanian, Armen
Babb, Keedie (b. 10/12/1982)
Babbitt, Milton (b.5/10/1916 - d. 1/29/2011)
Babcock, Bruce
Babell, Charles
Babell, William (b.01/01/1690 - d. 9/23/1723)
Baben, T.
Babic, Andrej
Babin, Louis
Babin, Victor (b.01/01/1908 - d. 3/01/1972)
Babo, Lamartine (b.3/08/1904 - d. 6/16/1963)
Babos, Gyula (b. 01/01/1949)
Babos, Karoly
Babou, Thomas (b.2/12/1656 - d. 01/01/1740)
Babs, Alice (b. 1/26/1924)
Babu, Valter
Babusa, Miklos
Baby, Trevor Dark
Babyface, (b. 01/01/1959)
Baca Lobera, Ignacio
Baca, Nick
Bacalhau, Jose
Baca-Lobera, Ignacio (b. 01/01/1957)
Bacalov, Luis (b. 3/30/1933)
Bacan, Ines
Bacan, Pedro (b. 1951)
Bacarisse, Salvador (b.9/12/1898 - d. 8/05/1963)
Baccini, R.
Baccusi, Hippolito (b.01/01/1550 - d. 01/01/1609)
Bacevicius, Vytautas
Bacewicz, Grazyna (b.2/05/1909 - d. 1/17/1969)
Bach, Carl Philipp Emanuel (b.3/08/1714 - d. 12/14/1788)
Bach, Erik (b. 01/01/1946)
Bach, Georg Christoph (b.9/06/1642 - d. 4/27/1697)
Bach, Heinrich (b.01/01/1615 - d. 01/01/1692)
Bach, Jan (b. 12/11/1937)
Bach, Johann (b.11/26/1604 - d. 5/13/1673)
Bach, Johann Bernhard (b.11/25/1676 - d. 6/11/1749)
Bach, Johann Christian (b.9/05/1735 - d. 1/01/1782)
Bach, Johann Christoph (b.12/08/1642 - d. 4/02/1703)


Johann Sebastian Bach was #59. I'd say the "notable" composers who come before the Bachs, alphabetically, are Babadjanian, Babbitt, Bacevicius, and Bacewicz, at least.