Top 5 Favorite British composers besides Elgar, VW, Holst, Britten and Walton

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Who are your top 5 favorite British composers besides Elgar, VW, Holst, Britten and Walton?

William Alwyn
7 (20.6%)
Richard Arnell
1 (2.9%)
Malcolm Arnold
9 (26.5%)
Edgar Bainton
1 (2.9%)
Granville Bantock
4 (11.8%)
Stanley Bate
1 (2.9%)
Arnold Bax
12 (35.3%)
Richard Rodney Bennett
0 (0%)
Lennox Berkeley
1 (2.9%)
Michael Berkeley
0 (0%)
Howard Blake
0 (0%)
Arthur Bliss
2 (5.9%)
Rutland Boughton
0 (0%)
William Boyce
1 (2.9%)
William Sterndale Bennett
0 (0%)
York Bowen
1 (2.9%)
Havergal Brian
8 (23.5%)
Alan Bush
0 (0%)
Arthur Butterworth
0 (0%)
George Butterworth
0 (0%)
Eric Chisholm
0 (0%)
Samuel Coleridge-Taylor
2 (5.9%)
Arnold Cooke
1 (2.9%)
Peter Maxwell Davies
2 (5.9%)
Frederick Delius
7 (20.6%)
George Dyson
0 (0%)
Howard Ferguson
0 (0%)
Gerald Finzi
4 (11.8%)
John Foulds
2 (5.9%)
Benjamin Frankel
1 (2.9%)
Cecil Armstrong Gibbs
0 (0%)
Alexander Goehr
0 (0%)
Eugene Goossens
0 (0%)
Christopher Gunning
0 (0%)
Patrick Hadley
0 (0%)
Hamilton Harty
0 (0%)
Alun Hoddinott
0 (0%)
Joseph Holbrooke
0 (0%)
Herbert Howells
1 (2.9%)
John Ireland
3 (8.8%)
Gordon Jacob
1 (2.9%)
Daniel Jones
0 (0%)
Constant Lambert
2 (5.9%)
Walter Leigh
0 (0%)
Kenneth Leighton
1 (2.9%)
George Lloyd
1 (2.9%)
James MacMillan
0 (0%)
Elizabeth Maconchy
0 (0%)
William Mathias
0 (0%)
Colin Matthews
0 (0%)
David Matthews
0 (0%)
Nicholas Maw
0 (0%)
John Blackwood McEwen
1 (2.9%)
EJ Moeran
3 (8.8%)
Hubert Parry
3 (8.8%)
John Pickard
0 (0%)
Alan Rawsthorne
0 (0%)
Cyril Rootham
0 (0%)
Cyril Scott
0 (0%)
Humphrey Searle
0 (0%)
Robert Simpson
3 (8.8%)
Ethel Smyth
0 (0%)
Charles Stanford
4 (11.8%)
Bernard Stevens
0 (0%)
Ronald Stevenson
0 (0%)
Arthur Sullivan
1 (2.9%)
John Tavener
0 (0%)
Michael Tippett
7 (20.6%)
Judith Weir
0 (0%)
Harrison Birtwistle
3 (8.8%)
Edmund Rubbra
3 (8.8%)
George Benjamin
1 (2.9%)
John Joubert
0 (0%)
Jonathan Harvey
4 (11.8%)
Julian Anderson
0 (0%)
Sally Beamish
0 (0%)
Elizabeth Lutyens
1 (2.9%)
Oliver Knussen
0 (0%)
Michael Nyman
0 (0%)
Brian Ferneyhough
2 (5.9%)
Kaikhosru Sorabji
1 (2.9%)
Cornelius Cardew
2 (5.9%)
Thomas Ades
0 (0%)
Frank Bridge
1 (2.9%)
John White
0 (0%)
Ruth Gipps
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 34

AnthonyAthletic

Flawed, yes...I could only judge this one on say 25 or so composers whom I have heard most of their works on.

Left me with 50% or so unheard and 10% unknowns/new.

I wish the persons good luck and happy listening if you have most of the works by all the composers mentioned in this poll.   ;)

"Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying"      (Arthur C. Clarke)

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Mirror Image on August 22, 2013, 08:26:59 PM
Sorry, but I feel more from this symphony than anything Delius composed now. I've been doing a lot of thinking on Delius over the past months and, while I certainly admire his individuality, I cannot help but think there's just something so inherently wrong in his music to my ears. I mean he really doesn't sound like he's had much compositional training at all. All of his works move at a snail's pace...

While I applaud your ability to reevaluate composers, rethink your beliefs, move on to other passions, it is a more than a little disconcerting to see how radically you can change! From being the guy who claimed he'd never change his Delius avatar; from being the guy who wrote this

Quote from: Mirror Image on March 26, 2013, 11:37:21 AM
Delius was a genius! The man could coax more emotion out of three notes than most composers could with 15.

to being the guy who now says "there's just something so inherently wrong in his music" is shocking.

Anyway, nice to see Delius doing reasonably well in the poll. Some of us remain loyal  :D ;)

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

jochanaan

Malcolm Arnold.  Some amazing chamber music for the oddest combinations!  (He wrote during WWII, when lots of musicians were "missing in action," thus necessitating music for whoever was available.)

Richard Rodney Bennett.  I only know the oboe sonata that I've played, but it's an awesome piece!  (And awesomely difficult to rehearse and perform. :o)

Frederick Delius.  For obvious reasons.

Michael Tippett.  Only heard his Symphonies 2 and 4, but they're worthy masterworks.

Parry isn't bad, but I can't quite put him at the top of any lists.  Other than that, I either don't know enough of their works, or I'm not particularly fond of them.  (John Ireland is on the latter list; I've heard a few of his over the radio and have been distinctly unimpressed.)
Imagination + discipline = creativity

kyjo

Quote from: North Star on August 23, 2013, 12:19:37 AM
Tippett, Ireland, Finzi, Dowland, Purcell

BTW, I assume you meant to put John Tavener in the poll, not Taverner, since the poll focuses on the more recent ones.

Yes, I did. Glad I could rely on your eagle eye! :)


kyjo


kyjo

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 23, 2013, 04:22:50 AM
All right, where's Sorabji?  You've added Sally blooming Beamish, but there's still no Sorabji??!!   ???   ;)   8)

Ah, Sorabji's a strange bird. I'm not surprised I forgot him! ;)

Mirror Image

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on August 23, 2013, 06:01:14 AM
While I applaud your ability to reevaluate composers, rethink your beliefs, move on to other passions, it is a more than a little disconcerting to see how radically you can change! From being the guy who claimed he'd never change his Delius avatar; from being the guy who wrote this

to being the guy who now says "there's just something so inherently wrong in his music" is shocking.

Anyway, nice to see Delius doing reasonably well in the poll. Some of us remain loyal  :D ;)

Sarge

Yes, I suppose it is quite shocking to read my high praise for Delius many months ago to reading what I wrote yesterday on this thread. As I mentioned, I'm in constant evolution as a classical listener and I've only been listening seriously for five years. I'm sure more changes are yet to come...


Mirror Image

Quote from: kyjo on August 22, 2013, 09:45:14 PM
I'm not really into the "spectralist" composers (I've tried Murail and Dusapin and haven't liked either of their music), so I think I'll pass on Harvey. Thanks for mentioning Lutyens. She is known, more than anything, for inventing the derogatory term "the cowpat school" to categorize composers such as VW, Finzi and Howells. I haven't heard any of her music, much of which is 12-tone. I have a feeling that her music is going to be more like Webern than Schoenberg or Berg, though.....hopefully I'll prove to be wrong!

P.S. I've added Oliver Knussen, a fantastic composer and conductor.

I feel you on the spectralists and Lutyens. I've actually heard a few works (forget the titles) by Lutyens and remain unimpressed. Like you mentioned, she's closer to Webern than Schoenberg and Berg and I'm no fan of Webern's music.

kyjo

Quote from: Mirror Image on August 23, 2013, 06:49:11 AM
I feel you on the spectralists and Lutyens. I've actually heard a few works (forget the titles) by Lutyens and remain unimpressed. Like you mentioned, she's closer to Webern than Schoenberg and Berg and I'm no fan of Webern's music.

Yeah, I was afraid so. I'll pass on Lutyens as well. :)

kyjo

Quote from: sanantonio on August 23, 2013, 06:55:03 AM
Despite there still being no Adès choice, I managed to find five composers on the list that I actually like:

Benjamin
Lutyens
Harvey
Ferneyhough
Cordew


:)

So much cowpat music among the British.

;)

Don't know what happened with Ades ::); I have added him again.

springrite

I looked all over for Frank Bridge before I decided to put McEwen at #5.
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

kyjo

Quote from: springrite on August 23, 2013, 07:30:05 AM
I looked all over for Frank Bridge before I decided to put McEwen at #5.

Apologies. :-[ I shall duly add Bridge. :)

kyjo

Quote from: AnthonyAthletic on August 23, 2013, 04:08:15 AM
i voted for Arnold, Bax, Delius, Finzi & Stanford.

It could well change, as there's an awful lot of Brit composers on this list whom I haven't discovered yet, and one or two names who are totally new to me.

You'll find much to enjoy when exploring the byways of British music! Just let me know if you need any help with recommendations. :)

Karl Henning

Voted for:

Tippett (Really, I should have cast him up in the same rank as Elgar, RVW, Holst, Britten & Walton!)
Howells (both on the strength of some toothsome Anglican service music, and the keyboard CD touted by our Luke)
Stevenson (for that magnificent DSCH Passacaglia alone!)
Sorabji
Bridge (deserves to be known on his own work's merits, and not simply as Britten's teacher)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
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His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Sammy

Quote from: Mirror Image on August 22, 2013, 08:38:15 PM
I'm afraid I can't find one redeeming quality about Delius now to warrant putting him on my list of favorites.

So you've gone from praising Delius as if he occupied hallowed ground to throwing him under the bus.  You were apparently premature in your praise.  In the future, it might be best for you not to go "nuts" over a composer until you've reached a final verdict.  I'm not concerned about how this affects you; I have no empathy for anti-Bach guys.  It's just that many members here likely have put significant weight on your pronouncements.

You say that you engage in "constant evolution", but I think that you should instead concentrate on reliability.

Daverz

Quote from: Sammy on August 23, 2013, 11:03:18 AM
So you've gone from praising Delius as if he occupied hallowed ground to throwing him under the bus.

Crunch!

There is one Delius work that I've enjoyed: Appalachia.  It has some exciting and dynamic bits.  I have it on this Beecham compilation:

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I also missed Tippett in my choice of second tier composers, probably because I tend to think of him as first tier, even if he has pissed me off at times (e.g. Songs for Dov; we are not amused Mr. Tippett).


kyjo

Quote from: Daverz on August 23, 2013, 11:46:33 AM
I also missed Tippett in my choice of second tier composers, probably because I tend to think of him as first tier, even if he has pissed me off at times (e.g. Songs for Dov; we are not amused Mr. Tippett).

Don't forget the horrendous New Years' Suite! :P

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Daverz on August 23, 2013, 11:46:33 AMI tend to think of him as first tier, even if he has pissed me off at times (e.g. Songs for Dov; we are not amused Mr. Tippett).

The Songs are in my Top 5 Tippett works. They amuse me  :D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"