Five Most Underrated Symphonists

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Who do you believe are the five most underrated symphonists?

Jan Vaclav Kalivoda
3 (5.7%)
Franz Lachner
0 (0%)
Louise Farrenc
4 (7.5%)
Johann Rufinatscha
0 (0%)
Niels Gade
0 (0%)
Joachim Raff
1 (1.9%)
Anton Rubinstein
0 (0%)
Felix Draeseke
0 (0%)
Camille Saint-Saens
2 (3.8%)
Max Bruch
0 (0%)
Friedrich Gernsheim
0 (0%)
Asger Hamerik
1 (1.9%)
Heinrich von Herzogenberg
0 (0%)
Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov
0 (0%)
Zygmunt Noskowski
0 (0%)
Hubert Parry
0 (0%)
Zdenek Fibich
1 (1.9%)
Vincent d'Indy
0 (0%)
Charles Villiers Stanford
1 (1.9%)
George Whitefield Chadwick
0 (0%)
Bernard Zweers
0 (0%)
Julius Rontgen
0 (0%)
Christian Sinding
0 (0%)
Sergei Taneyev
2 (3.8%)
Emil von Reznicek
0 (0%)
Felix Woyrsch
0 (0%)
Alberto Williams
0 (0%)
Felix Weingartner
0 (0%)
Alexander Gretchaninov
0 (0%)
Johan Halvorsen
0 (0%)
Joseph-Guy Ropartz
1 (1.9%)
Alexander Glazunov
4 (7.5%)
Alberic Magnard
2 (3.8%)
Charles Koechlin
0 (0%)
Wilhelm Peterson-Berger
0 (0%)
Granville Bantock
0 (0%)
Alfred Hill
0 (0%)
Albert Roussel
1 (1.9%)
Cornelis Dopper
0 (0%)
Joseph Ryelandt
0 (0%)
Charles Tournemire
1 (1.9%)
Wilhelm Stenhammar
1 (1.9%)
Alexander von Zemlinsky
2 (3.8%)
Hugo Alfven
1 (1.9%)
Alexander Scriabin
2 (3.8%)
Josef Suk
0 (0%)
Franz Schmidt
4 (7.5%)
Erkki Melartin
1 (1.9%)
Reinhold Gliere
2 (3.8%)
Richard Wetz
1 (1.9%)
Havergal Brian
7 (13.2%)
Ludolf Nielsen
1 (1.9%)
Fritz Brun
0 (0%)
Natanael Berg
0 (0%)
Cyril Scott
0 (0%)
Edgar Bainton
0 (0%)
Ernest Bloch
0 (0%)
Georges Enescu
2 (3.8%)
Jan van Gilse
1 (1.9%)
Nikolai Miaskovsky
5 (9.4%)
Gian Francesco Malipiero
0 (0%)
Karol Szymanowski
1 (1.9%)
Arnold Bax
3 (5.7%)
Alfredo Casella
2 (3.8%)
Paul von Klenau
0 (0%)
Arthur Meulemans
0 (0%)
Ture Rangstrom
0 (0%)
Wallingford Riegger
0 (0%)
Egon Wellesz
1 (1.9%)
Wilhelm Furtwangler
0 (0%)
Jef van Hoof
0 (0%)
Kurt Atterberg
3 (5.7%)
Leevi Madetoja
0 (0%)
Ernst Toch
0 (0%)
Fartein Valen
0 (0%)
Heitor Villa-Lobos
0 (0%)
Matthijs Vermeulen
5 (9.4%)
Cecil Armstrong Gibbs
0 (0%)
Rudolph Simonsen
0 (0%)
Luis de Freitas Branco
0 (0%)
Hans Gal
0 (0%)
Bohuslav Martinu
5 (9.4%)
Gosta Nystroem
0 (0%)
Sergei Prokofiev
3 (5.7%)
Arthur Honegger
3 (5.7%)
Laszlo Lajtha
1 (1.9%)
Darius Milhaud
0 (0%)
Hilding Rosenberg
1 (1.9%)
Godfried Devreese
0 (0%)
Rued Langgaard
3 (5.7%)
Aarre Merikanto
0 (0%)
Willem Pijper
0 (0%)
Walter Piston
1 (1.9%)
Erwin Schulhoff
1 (1.9%)
Paul Hindemith
1 (1.9%)
Leo Sowerby
0 (0%)
Eduard Erdmann
0 (0%)
William Grant Still
0 (0%)
Roberto Gerhard
1 (1.9%)
Howard Hanson
1 (1.9%)
Jean Rivier
0 (0%)
Roger Sessions
1 (1.9%)
Virgil Thomson
0 (0%)
Henry Cowell
1 (1.9%)
Francisco Mignone
0 (0%)
Knudage Riisager
0 (0%)
Harald Saeverud
0 (0%)
Alexandre Tansman
0 (0%)
Roy Harris
0 (0%)
Carlos Chavez
0 (0%)
Alexander Tcherepnin
0 (0%)
Randall Thompson
0 (0%)
George Antheil
1 (1.9%)
Alan Bush
0 (0%)
Aaron Copland
0 (0%)
Ernst Krenek
1 (1.9%)
Marcel Poot
0 (0%)
Edmund Rubbra
2 (3.8%)
Henri Sauguet
0 (0%)
Lennox Berkeley
0 (0%)
Vittorio Giannini
0 (0%)
Aram Khachaturian
0 (0%)
Gunter Raphael
0 (0%)
Dmitri Kabalevsky
0 (0%)
William Alwyn
0 (0%)
Karl Amadeus Hartmann
5 (9.4%)
Leon Orthel
1 (1.9%)
Alan Rawsthorne
0 (0%)
Michael Tippett
0 (0%)
Eduard Tubin
1 (1.9%)
Dag Wiren
1 (1.9%)
Arnold Cooke
1 (1.9%)
Paul Creston
0 (0%)
Benjamin Frankel
0 (0%)
Janis Ivanovs
1 (1.9%)
Alexander Moyzes
0 (0%)
David Van Vactor
0 (0%)
Henk Badings
0 (0%)
Camargo Guarnieri
0 (0%)
Ahmet Adnan Saygun
0 (0%)
Martin Scherber
0 (0%)
Elliott Carter
0 (0%)
Herman David Koppel
0 (0%)
Vagn Holmboe
2 (3.8%)
Robin Orr
0 (0%)
Elie Siegmiester
0 (0%)
William Schuman
2 (3.8%)
Josef Tal
0 (0%)
Stanley Bate
1 (1.9%)
Alan Hovhaness
1 (1.9%)
Allan Pettersson
2 (3.8%)
Nino Rota
0 (0%)
Don Gillis
0 (0%)
Tauno Marttinen
0 (0%)
Benjamin Britten
0 (0%)
Morton Gould
1 (1.9%)
George Lloyd
1 (1.9%)
Witold Lutoslawski
0 (0%)
Gardner Read
0 (0%)
Andrzej Panufnik
0 (0%)
David Diamond
2 (3.8%)
Douglas Lilburn
0 (0%)
Vincent Persichetti
0 (0%)
Humphrey Searle
1 (1.9%)
Karl-Birger Blomdahl
0 (0%)
Einar Englund
0 (0%)
Richard Arnell
1 (1.9%)
Lou Harrison
2 (3.8%)
Isang Yun
0 (0%)
Leonard Bernstein
0 (0%)
George Rochberg
0 (0%)
Niels Viggo Bentzon
0 (0%)
Lex van Delden
0 (0%)
Leif Kayser
0 (0%)
Claudio Santoro
0 (0%)
Mieczyslaw Weinberg
2 (3.8%)
Alexander Lokshin
0 (0%)
Malcolm Arnold
3 (5.7%)
Fritz Geissler
0 (0%)
Ruth Gipps
1 (1.9%)
Joonas Kokkonen
1 (1.9%)
Robert Simpson
4 (7.5%)
Irwin Bazelon
0 (0%)
Arthur Butterworth
0 (0%)
Viktor Kalabis
0 (0%)
Peter Mennin
0 (0%)
Ned Rorem
0 (0%)
Joly Braga Santos
0 (0%)
Mikhail Nosyrev
0 (0%)
Hendrik Andriessen
0 (0%)
Andrei Eshpai
0 (0%)
Boris Tchaikovsky
0 (0%)
Samuel Adler
0 (0%)
Tadeusz Baird
0 (0%)
James Cohn
0 (0%)
Einojuhani Rautavaara
3 (5.7%)
Alun Hoddinott
1 (1.9%)
Kenneth Leighton
1 (1.9%)
Ib Norholm
0 (0%)
Malcolm Williamson
0 (0%)
John Kinsella
1 (1.9%)
Henri Lazarof
0 (0%)
Per Norgard
3 (5.7%)
Rodion Shchedrin
0 (0%)
Leonardo Balada
0 (0%)
Easley Blackwood
0 (0%)
Seoirse Bodley
0 (0%)
Henryk Gorecki
1 (1.9%)
Krzysztof Penderecki
2 (3.8%)
Alemdar Karamanov
1 (1.9%)
William Mathias
1 (1.9%)
Alfred Schnittke
5 (9.4%)
Peter Maxwell Davies
2 (3.8%)
Giya Kancheli
0 (0%)
Arvo Part
1 (1.9%)
Aulis Sallinen
0 (0%)
Osvaldas Balakauskas
0 (0%)
Philip Glass
1 (1.9%)
Valentin Silvestrov
0 (0%)
William Bolcom
0 (0%)
John Corigliano
0 (0%)
Jose Serebrier
0 (0%)
John McCabe
0 (0%)
Boris Tishchenko
0 (0%)
Adolphus Hailstork
0 (0%)
Tomas Marco
0 (0%)
Ross Edwards
0 (0%)
David Maslanka
0 (0%)
Christopher Gunning
0 (0%)
Leif Segerstam
1 (1.9%)
Arnold Rosner
0 (0%)
Ragnar Soderlind
0 (0%)
Ulrich Leyendecker
0 (0%)
Kalevi Aho
3 (5.7%)
Christopher Rouse
0 (0%)
Poul Ruders
0 (0%)
Lepo Sumera
0 (0%)
Brenton Broadstock
0 (0%)
Oliver Knussen
0 (0%)
Alla Pavlova
0 (0%)
Daniel Asia
0 (0%)
Takashi Yoshimatsu
0 (0%)
Carl Vine
0 (0%)
Richard Danielpour
0 (0%)
Jouni Kaipainen
0 (0%)
Erkki-Sven Tuur
0 (0%)
Kamran Ince
0 (0%)
Aaron Jay Kernis
0 (0%)
Lowell Liebermann
0 (0%)
Zhu Jianer
0 (0%)
Richard Hol
0 (0%)
Louis Glass
0 (0%)
Norbert Burgmuller
0 (0%)

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Wanderer

#40
December 11, 2013, 11:28:12 PM
Quote from: amw on December 11, 2013, 02:37:09 PM
No Jani Christou?

I almost choked on my coffee there.  ;)

Karl Henning

#41
December 12, 2013, 03:53:27 AM
Quote from: DavidW on August 24, 2013, 05:33:21 AM
That poll was overwhelming, I couldn't even finish reading the choices.

There seem to be 253 choices;  I'm not bothering even to try.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

#42
December 12, 2013, 03:55:45 AM
Quote from: Ten thumbs on December 11, 2013, 01:09:17 PM
As most of us are unlikely to have heard symphonies by all of these composers[....]

We should probably worry about anyone who has . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Brahmsian

#43
December 12, 2013, 04:02:14 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on December 12, 2013, 03:55:45 AM
We should probably worry about anyone who has . . . .

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

G'morn' Karl!  8)

Perhaps Mike (some guy) has heard all of these 253's symphonies, plus another 253 unsungs.  ;)

Karl Henning

#44
December 12, 2013, 04:03:47 AM
Bonjour, Ray!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

springrite

#45
December 12, 2013, 04:25:14 AM
I, of course, picked 5 before I finished looking at even 1/3 of the list, and little thought went into it ( almost picking the first five names that I recognise that kind of clicked.

I suspect that is true with most people who replied.
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Karl Henning

#46
December 12, 2013, 04:42:14 AM
Well, you're the psychologist . . . .

0:)   8)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Cato

#47
December 13, 2013, 06:29:37 AM
Quote from: ChamberNut on December 12, 2013, 04:02:14 AM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

G'morn' Karl!  8)

Perhaps Mike (some guy) has heard all of these 253's symphonies, plus another 253 unsungs.  ;)

I see somebody voted for Leif Segerstam: I believe he has composed more than 253 symphonies all by his lonesome!
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

vandermolen

#48
December 20, 2013, 02:26:23 PM
Rosenberg (no complete cycle)
Diamond (the same)
Kinsella
Stanley Bate
Richard Arnell
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

madaboutmahler

#49
January 04, 2014, 08:26:42 AM
My votes go to Schnittke, Simpson, Glazunov and Roussel.

And Yngve Skold who wasn't on the list - 4 excellent symphonies. :)
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

The new erato

#50
January 04, 2014, 01:08:26 PM
Quote from: madaboutmahler on January 04, 2014, 08:26:42 AM
My votes go to Schnittke, Simpson, Glazunov and Roussel.

And Yngve Skold who wasn't on the list - 4 excellent symphonies. :)
Shit - now we need to start all over again.

Lisztianwagner

#51
January 04, 2014, 01:23:12 PM
I vote for Melartin, Holmboe, Hartmann and Simpson and Schnittke.
"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

Mirror Image

#52
January 12, 2014, 03:55:59 PM
Quote from: Lisztianwagner on January 04, 2014, 01:23:12 PM
I vote for Melartin, Holmboe, Hartmann and Simpson and Schnittke.

I can't get into Simpson, but agree about Melartin, Holmboe, Hartmann, and Schnittke (although not as consistent as the other three).

Lisztianwagner

#53
January 13, 2014, 04:46:59 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on January 12, 2014, 03:55:59 PM
I can't get into Simpson, but agree about Melartin, Holmboe, Hartmann, and Schnittke (although not as consistent as the other three).

There were several composers I considered as fifth choice, but I ended up voting for Simpson; I don't think Szymanowski, Glazunov, Atterberg, Honegger are as underrated as him, and I haven't listened to enough symphonies by Pettersson, Rautavaara, Aho or Schuman to choose one of them.
"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

ritter

#54
January 21, 2014, 09:02:22 AM
Since Mahler is not on the list  ;), my choice goes to the following:

- Enescu
- Honegger
- Casella
- Sessions
- Krenek

But I must admit there's quite a few names on this list that I've never even heard of  :-[

vandermolen

#57
February 15, 2014, 02:41:45 PM
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Ken B

#58
February 15, 2014, 07:09:11 PM
I've never heard a note of Vermeulen or Hartmann,  so they go on my to do list.

Miaskovsky as I said is my top pick. Others are Glazunov, Simpson.

I think Haydn is underrated but ....

Mirror Image

#59
February 16, 2014, 06:29:58 AM
Quote from: Ken B on February 15, 2014, 07:09:11 PMI've never heard a note of Hartmann

If you enjoy the expressionism of Berg, then you'll feel right at home in Hartmann's sound-world. 8)

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