Your Favorite Set of the Saint-Saens Piano Concerti

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SonicMan46

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Quote from: ChamberNut on March 21, 2013, 03:22:12 AM
Hough/Oramo

Hi Ray - I added that Hough 2-CD set to my collection since my last post here - one outlying review on Amazon; but, the Audite offering now interest me (not cheap!) - will await some more comments - Dave :)

 

Dancing Divertimentian

The closest I've come to buying a complete set has been the Hough set on Hyperion - this based on a couple of chance encounters of various movements courtesy of my local classical station. What I've heard sounds marvelous.

But so far I've been extremely satisfied with concertos 1 and 2 from a very French sounding Lebanese pianist, Abdel Rahman El Bacha, whose teaming with French forces no doubt influences things.

And the sound is absolutely bell-like and clear.






Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

liverpool

Quote from: SonicMan46 on March 21, 2013, 06:54:34 AM
the Audite offering now interest me (not cheap!) - will await some more comments - Dave :)
I see you live in the States and I see you can find that set on the marketplace for about 24 $. I think it's not that expensive, forasmuch as it's a double SACD.

SonicMan46

Quote from: liverpool on March 21, 2013, 10:03:16 AM
I see you live in the States and I see you can find that set on the marketplace for about 24 $. I think it's not that expensive, forasmuch as it's a double SACD.

Well, just re-checked and the Amazon MP retailers are two that I've used a LOT, i.e. ImportCDs & Classical Music Superstore - $24 is certainly a good price for Audite offerings (own a lot of their recordings, esp. of the Franck father & son team) - BUT will wait for some responses of our fellow members - thanks.  Dave :)

mc ukrneal

Quote from: SonicMan46 on March 21, 2013, 02:23:25 PM
Well, just re-checked and the Amazon MP retailers are two that I've used a LOT, i.e. ImportCDs & Classical Music Superstore - $24 is certainly a good price for Audite offerings (own a lot of their recordings, esp. of the Franck father & son team) - BUT will wait for some responses of our fellow members - thanks.  Dave :)
I have been watching this release for about the past 6 months. The cheapest that it has been available has been about $22 for a new one at Amazon (including shipping). Importcds has it for abotu $21 (includes the $1.5 per disc, but not the general shipping charge), so similar. 
Be kind to your fellow posters!!

SonicMan46

Quote from: mc ukrneal on March 21, 2013, 03:39:08 PM
I have been watching this release for about the past 6 months. The cheapest that it has been available has been about $22 for a new one at Amazon (including shipping). Importcds has it for abotu $21 (includes the $1.5 per disc, but not the general shipping charge), so similar.

Hi Neal - well the OP (i.e. Bulldog, a.k.a Don, a.k.a now Sammy - may have to redo the original poll from 3 yrs ago - YIKES - is that possible?)  NOT sure of current releases to be added or older ones that should be deleted?  Hopefully, Don will be seeing this thread and break-in w/ some comments - Dave :)

Brahmsian

Quote from: SonicMan46 on March 21, 2013, 06:54:34 AM
Hi Ray - I added that Hough 2-CD set to my collection since my last post here


Hi Dave, I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.  A great set!  :)

Sergeant Rock

#47
Quote from: liverpool on March 21, 2013, 02:02:27 AM
The metronome marking in the manuscript (added afterwards) and in the first edition score is a quarter note=184 bpm, so I think you could be wrong (in my humble opinion). Maybe you simply don't like the way Saint Saëns composed his works, but it's unfair to say that Rogé is too fast, when Malikova is too slow on the contrary.

If Saint-Saens were still alive, I'd try to set him straight  :D

Seriously, this isn't the first time I've disagreed with a composer about how his music should go. We all do it (and performing artists--conductors, soloists--do it all the time; that's why no performance of any work sounds the same as another). You're right; I was offereing my opinion on various versions based on how I prefer the music. For my taste, Rogé is simply too fast in the Allegro of the Fourth's second movement. That Saint-Saens would have been happy with it (or with Hough), makes no difference to me. Of course I want to hear it that way occasionally (I like variety) which is why I own their cycle, and four others.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
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Karl Henning

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on March 22, 2013, 05:49:43 AM
If Saint-Saens were still alive, I'd try to set him straight  :D

Seriously, this isn't the first time I've disagreed with a composer about how his music should go. We all do it (and performing artists--conductors, soloists--do it all the time; that's why no performance of any work sounds the same as another).

An idea which has arisen in more than one discussion is, that in fact great music admits of a range of interpretation (even before going Beyond the Pale).  The res will vary from composer to composer, but a marking in the score may not mean this way, and no other.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

liverpool

#49
Quote from: sanantonio on March 21, 2013, 04:48:16 PM
Right now I'm listening to Anna Malikova with Thomas Sanderling.

I look forward to reading your opinion on this set. Apart from what I said before, I think it's a really good set, with a clear and balanced sound. Did you notice what I said about the end of the first movement of the first concerto in another thread (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,21614.0.html)?

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on March 22, 2013, 05:49:43 AM
Seriously, this isn't the first time I've disagreed with a composer about how his music should go.
Me too several times. This is why I understand very well your position.

Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on March 21, 2013, 09:42:13 AM
But so far I've been extremely satisfied with concertos 1 and 2 from a very French sounding Lebanese pianist, Abdel Rahman El Bacha, whose teaming with French forces no doubt influences things.
Almost unfindable in my country.

Dancing Divertimentian

Quote from: liverpool on March 23, 2013, 04:18:08 AM
Almost unfindable in my country.

Are you in the UK? If so it's here on AmazonUK.

It's also available for cheap from the USA at Berkshire Record Outlet (fifth one down).


Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

liverpool

#51
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on March 23, 2013, 04:15:35 PM
Are you in the UK? If so it's here on AmazonUK.
Thank you very much. Maybe I'll take also Chopin's complete piano works from the french site. It's very cheap indeed and the comments are very good!

By the way: the website www.calliope.tm.fr (from the back cover of the CD) seems to be down.

mc ukrneal

Quote from: liverpool on March 24, 2013, 02:28:53 AM
By the way: the website www.calliope.tm.fr (from the back cover of the CD) seems to be down.
I seen to remember reading they closed shop some years ago...
Be kind to your fellow posters!!

kyjo

Well, waddya know-there's a thread on this very topic ::) :D

Karl Henning

Quote from: Annie on August 25, 2013, 09:57:47 AM
Until Shelley adds the other 4 to his No 2 with Greed/OperaNorthOrchestra:

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I should really give that a shot, I suppose.  Fact is, though, we heard him play № 5 live here in Symphony Hall, and it was fatally tepid.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Good point. Any artist may have an off night;  and sometimes, there just isn't the chemistry.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot