What music do you love that you'll admit isn't good?

Started by Brian, August 26, 2013, 04:46:27 PM

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Brian

Not music you love and will defend the quality of. For instance, I will argue with any foe that Johann Strauss' waltzes are very good music. But music you love despite knowing it sucks.

The amount of venom and hatred directed towards the Grand Canyon Suite suggests to me that my fondness for it is just not cool.  8)

kyjo

I, too, have always had a big soft spot for the Grand Canyon Suite. Grofe's other music is nice, too, but doesn't give me as much enjoyment as his most famous work.

There's a lot of mud slung at Khachaturian's music, but I'll admit I love it. 8) The guy could write some memorable tunes, that's for sure! And please don't think less of me as a person if I say I really like John Williams' (film) music! ;)

Johnll

Jean Alain is my pick. Even though he died at 28, he produced music that is special to me. If he had lived 3-4 more decades this would be considered juvenilia.Sample the music on Arion label.

Rinaldo

"The truly novel things will be invented by the young ones, not by me. But this doesn't worry me at all."
~ Grażyna Bacewicz

DavidW

JC Bach, not sure that he sucks but I'm not going to waste words defending liking his music to people that describe the classical era only by Haydn, Mozart and Beethoven. >:D

Brian

Quote from: DavidW on August 27, 2013, 03:33:27 AM
JC Bach, not sure that he sucks but I'm not going to waste words defending liking his music to people that describe the classical era only by Haydn, Mozart and Beethoven. >:D
Oooh! The fake cello concerto written by Henri Casadesus and attributed to JC Bach qualifies here.

Sergeant Rock

I've had a passion for the Napoleonic era since I was a teen. Really enjoy studying the campaigns and battles. Perhaps as a result I love the 1812 Overture and, yes, Wellington's Victory  8)


Sarge
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some guy

If you can love it, then there's nothing to admit.

You love it, i.e., the experience you have with the music is good.

The end.

AdamFromWashington

I love Rachmaninoff's 4th Piano Concerto. I even enjoy it more than the third. Yet I'm always hearing how it's worse than the other three. It sounds great to me. I like its "jazzy" sound. The 2nd movement is beautiful. Still, it is quite repetitive, and if the melodies don't appeal to someone then I can easily see them dismissing the piece. 

jochanaan

Quote from: some guy on August 27, 2013, 03:33:46 PM
If you can love it, then there's nothing to admit.

You love it, i.e., the experience you have with the music is good.

The end.
I'm with you.  If I love it, the music is great to me.  Of course, there is probably some objective standard of greatness, but I haven't yet come across an adequate description or definition of that term...
Imagination + discipline = creativity

Brahmsian

Beethoven - Piano Concerto No 2 (but really it is his first one).  Someone once described it to me as being 'Bad Mozart'.   ;D  I love this concerto, especially the Adagio.

jochanaan

Quote from: ChamberNut on August 27, 2013, 04:15:22 PM
Beethoven - Piano Concerto No 2 (but really it is his first one).  Someone once described it to me as being 'Bad Mozart'.   ;D  I love this concerto, especially the Adagio.
Inferior Mozart or Beethoven is still great music. :D And yes, I love the Second, especially the Adagio.  (Although I once saw a live performance with a youth orchestra in which the conductor could not conduct that movement; he had no idea how to lead a divided 3/4 measure! :o ::))
Imagination + discipline = creativity

ibanezmonster

We're talking classical music here... generally, there's not much out there that isn't "good," even some of the worst of it. I have a basis for comparison pop music; too generous or not?  :D

jochanaan

Quote from: Greg on August 27, 2013, 07:00:00 PM
We're talking classical music here... generally, there's not much out there that isn't "good," even some of the worst of it. I have a basis for comparison pop music; too generous or not?  :D
One would be forced to admit that it wouldn't stay popular if there weren't some element of greatness there.  Case in point: The Monkees.  Yes, they were a "manufactured" group, but they could actually write and play. 8)
Imagination + discipline = creativity

Mirror Image

Quote from: jochanaan on August 27, 2013, 07:12:25 PM
One would be forced to admit that it wouldn't stay popular if there weren't some element of greatness there.  Case in point: The Monkees.  Yes, they were a "manufactured" group, but they could actually write and play. 8)

I wonder where Milli Vanilli factors into this? ;)

Bogey

Quote from: Brian on August 26, 2013, 04:46:27 PM
Not music you love and will defend the quality of. For instance, I will argue with any foe that Johann Strauss' waltzes are very good music. But music you love despite knowing it sucks.

The amount of venom and hatred directed towards the Grand Canyon Suite suggests to me that my fondness for it is just not cool.  8)

Heck, I just purchased three lps of different pressings to compare sound and performance.  Guess I am uncool.....cool. ;)
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

ibanezmonster

Quote from: jochanaan on August 27, 2013, 07:12:25 PM
One would be forced to admit that it wouldn't stay popular if there weren't some element of greatness there.  Case in point: The Monkees.  Yes, they were a "manufactured" group, but they could actually write and play. 8)
I have more in mind the type of modern pop garbage that I hear being played while I work out at the YMCA.

Mirror Image

Quote from: Greg on August 27, 2013, 07:20:23 PM
I have more in mind the type of modern pop garbage that I hear being played while I work out at the YMCA.

Don't you just love coming away from a workout knowing that you just heard Justin Bieber's newest hit song? I know I can scarcely contain my enthusiasm. ;) :D

Bogey

Neil Diamond, anyone?  Complete coolness in my books.
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Bogey

And do not get me started on lounge, bachelor pad, space age pop.  Love the stuff.
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz