Favourite Kind of Ending

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(poco) Sforzando

#40
February 24, 2016, 03:21:25 AM
Quote from: springrite on February 24, 2016, 12:49:46 AM
Wait, I thought this was the beginning!

I would describe the beginning, middle, and end more like this:
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"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

Brian

#41
February 24, 2016, 04:34:11 AM
How 'bout beginnings that are endings in disguise? Beethoven Symphony 8 first movement, or Janacek's Sinfonietta.

Karl Henning

#42
February 24, 2016, 05:22:46 AM
Ma fin est mon commencement.
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http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

vandermolen

#43
February 24, 2016, 12:42:39 PM
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Sergeant Rock

#44
February 24, 2016, 01:02:04 PM
Quote from: Brian on February 24, 2016, 04:34:11 AM
How 'bout beginnings that are endings in disguise? Beethoven Symphony 8 first movement, or Janacek's Sinfonietta.
Quote from: karlhenning on February 24, 2016, 05:22:46 AM
Ma fin est mon commencement.

...the end of all our exploring
will be to arrive where we started...


the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
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(poco) Sforzando

#45
February 24, 2016, 06:43:43 PM
Quote from: Brian on February 24, 2016, 04:34:11 AM
How 'bout beginnings that are endings in disguise? Beethoven Symphony 8 first movement, or Janacek's Sinfonietta.

An earlier and very elegant example from Beethoven occurs in the first movement of the G major quartet, Op. 18/2. Here the first eight bars of the movement become its last eight bars as well, and Beethoven is able to do this because the phrase ends on a dominant-tonic cadence.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

Jo498

#46
February 24, 2016, 11:35:41 PM
Haydn does that several times. E.g. in the G major (5?) in op.33. The first phrase of the first movement is an "ending". op.50/6, 1st mvmt is similar.

And I love the quiet "simple" ending of LvB 8th, 1st mvmt.
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

EigenUser

#47
February 25, 2016, 01:46:00 AM
Quote from: Jo498 on February 24, 2016, 11:35:41 PM
Haydn does that several times. E.g. in the G major (5?) in op.33. The first phrase of the first movement is an "ending". op.50/6, 1st mvmt is similar.

And I love the quiet "simple" ending of LvB 8th, 1st mvmt.
Me too! It is generally such a loud movement and you don't expect it to end like that. Then there's the finale, which seems to take forever to end lol.

I think that one of the most unsettling endings in music that I've heard is the end of Ravel's Gaspard de la Nuit. The whole 3rd movement "Scarbo" consists of a creepy gargoyle hiding in the shadows, occasionally illuminated by flashes of lightning, and occasionally jumping out at you (only to retreat back to the shadows). The unresolved ending is a huge unanswered question because it is like he goes back and hides -- but you don't know when he is coming back! Far more unsettling than if Ravel had just ended it with a "bang" (which would be expected for such a showpiece). It is like Edgar Allen Poe in music form.
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".
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