Supernatural Showdown!

Started by kyjo, September 06, 2013, 02:47:12 PM

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What is your favorite piece that relates to a supernatural subject?

Mussorgsky: "Night on Bald Mountain"
3 (15.8%)
Dukas: "L'apprenti sorcier"
3 (15.8%)
Saint-Saens: "Danse macabre"
2 (10.5%)
Berlioz: "Symphonie Fantastique": 5th movement ("Ronde du sabbat")
4 (21.1%)
Dvorak: "The Noon Witch"
0 (0%)
Dvorak: "The Golden Spinning Wheel"
0 (0%)
Dvorak: "The Wild Dove"
0 (0%)
Raff: Symphony no. 5 "Lenore"
0 (0%)
Schubert: "Erlkonig"
2 (10.5%)
Wagner: "Ring" Cycle
2 (10.5%)
Mahler: "Das Klagende Lied"
1 (5.3%)
Schoenberg: "Gurrelieder"
0 (0%)
Rachmaninov: "Isle of the Dead"
1 (5.3%)
Dvorak: "The Spectre's Bride"
1 (5.3%)
Liadov: "Baba-Yaga"
0 (0%)
Liadov: "The Enchanted Lake"
0 (0%)
Liadov: "Kikimora"
0 (0%)
Ravel: "Gaspard de la nuit"
0 (0%)
Stravinsky: "The Firebird"
0 (0%)
Sibelius: "Luonnotar"
0 (0%)
Sibelius: "Tapiola"
0 (0%)
Sibelius: "The Oceanides"
0 (0%)
Sibelius: "The Wood Nymph"
0 (0%)
Berlioz: "Faust"
0 (0%)
Prokofiev: "The Fiery Angel"
0 (0%)
Ravel: "L'enfant et les sortileges"
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 17

kyjo

I voted for Night on Bald Mountain. Still sends chills down my spine after all these years!

Please let me know what pieces I have left out! I have doubtlessly left out quite a few as there is no source except my feeble memory I could use to create this poll. :)

Brian

Berlioz: 10/10 amazing and perfect
Mussorgsky ORIGINAL: 9/10 wild and crazy and awesome
Dukas: 9/10 so much fun
Saint-Saens: 7/10 don't like it as much as the other
Mussorgsky ARR. RIMSKY OR STOKOWSKI: 6/10 way inferior to the original

My favorite title for a supernatural piece is Josef Suk's "In the Power of Phantoms."

PaulR

Berlioz Symphony Fantastique, closely followed by Night on Bald Mountain (The original, or the one taken out of the Sorochintsky Fair)

TheGSMoeller

Berlioz, easy pick.

But a big shout out to Saint-Saens, I played Dance Macabre in high school and have always loved that piece.

PaulR

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on September 06, 2013, 05:44:29 PM
Berlioz, easy pick.

But a big shout out to Saint-Saens, I played Dance Macabre in high school and have always loved that piece.
Same here, it's in 3rd place for me :)

kyjo

#5
Please remember that you are only voting for the fifth movement of the Symphonie Fantastique! The first four movements don't really have supernatural connections.

On the topic of that fifth movement, I remember the first time I heard it when I was just a lad, playing the cello in the local youth orchestra. When the conductor told us this piece was written in 1830, I was like "WTF?" :D It still amazes me to this day how forward looking this piece (the fifth movement in particular) is. It almost seems to me that some sections in the last movement (especially that creepy sul ponticello fugal passage in the strings) completely look past the rest of the romantic era and ahead to the modern.

mc ukrneal

Dukas, though the Bald Mountain and Macabre Dance are like 1a and 1b and almost neck and neck (the three of them).
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Daverz

I'd add:

Dvorak: Garland Tone Poems (The Wild Dove; The Noon Witch; The Golden Spinning-Wheel; The Water Goblin); The Spectre's Bride (cheating a bit as this is a sort of cantata.)
Raff: Symphony 5, "Lenore" (same story as the The Spectre's Bride)
Schubert: Der Erlkoenig

There are lots of opera's with supernatural themes.

kyjo

Quote from: Daverz on September 07, 2013, 04:46:09 PM
I'd add:

Dvorak: Garland Tone Poems (The Wild Dove; The Noon Witch; The Golden Spinning-Wheel; The Water Goblin); The Spectre's Bride (cheating a bit as this is a sort of cantata.)
Raff: Symphony 5, "Lenore" (same story as the The Spectre's Bride)
Schubert: Der Erlkoenig

There are lots of opera's with supernatural themes.

Thanks, Dave. I'm not too familiar with opera, so if someone wouldn't mind telling me which operas have supernatural themes, that'd be great. :)

Lisztianwagner

Could Wagner's Der Ring des Nibelungen count?
"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

kyjo

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on September 07, 2013, 04:50:23 PM
Could Wagner's Der Ring des Nibelungen count?

I suppose...I'll add it to the poll. :)

Daverz

Quote from: kyjo on September 07, 2013, 04:49:11 PM
Thanks, Dave. I'm not too familiar with opera, so if someone wouldn't mind telling me which operas have supernatural themes, that'd be great. :)

Well, most Wagner of course.  All those Rimsky-Korsakov fairy-tale operas.  Dvorak's Rusalka and The Devil and Kate.  Weber's Die Freischutz.  Mozart, The Magic Flute!

mc ukrneal

Quote from: Daverz on September 07, 2013, 04:55:07 PM
Weber's Die Freischutz!
This is the one that comes to mind first, because of the Wolf Glen's scene.
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Sergeant Rock

#13
These should be in the poll: Mahler's Das Klagende Lied and Schoenberg's Gurre-Lieder.

I don't think you should add operas. The list would become unwieldy and...well, there is just no comparing works like Night on Bald Mountain and the Ring. How do you choose between such disparate compositions?

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

kishnevi

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on September 08, 2013, 04:10:14 AM
These should be in the poll: Mahler's Das Klagende Lied and Schoenberg's Gurre-Lieder.

I don't think you should add operas. The list would become unwieldy and...well, there is just no comparing works like Night on Bald Mountain and the Ring. How do you choose between such disparate compositions?

Sarge

Well, if brevity is a criterion,  there's no question which one would be the winner hands-down.  Although of course Night on Bald Mountain was originally part of an opera.  And actually,  Wagner wrote more operas with supernatural elements than he wrote operas without them: Feen, Dutchman, Tannhauser, Lohengrin, Parsifal, plus the Ring.  Against Liebesverbot, Rienzi, Tristan, Meistersinger

Gurre Lieder brings to mind hunters cursed to perdition,  which brings to mind The Accursed Huntsman.  Although at the moment I can't remember the actual French title, nor the composer.  Franck, wasn't it?

springrite

I am usually not into this kind of things. So I voted for Mickey Mouse.
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

kyjo

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on September 08, 2013, 04:10:14 AM
These should be in the poll: Mahler's Das Klagende Lied and Schoenberg's Gurre-Lieder.

I don't think you should add operas. The list would become unwieldy and...well, there is just no comparing works like Night on Bald Mountain and the Ring. How do you choose between such disparate compositions?

Sarge

Good point, Sarge. I'll add the Mahler and Schoenberg pieces to the list.

springrite

Quote from: kyjo on September 08, 2013, 08:31:15 AM
Good point, Sarge. I'll add the Mahler and Schoenberg pieces to the list.

I am changing my vote to Mahler then.
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Daverz

Wait, those aren't just regular folks in Gurre-Lieder?

springrite

Quote from: Daverz on September 08, 2013, 10:21:25 AM
Wait, those aren't just regular folks in Gurre-Lieder?

Define "regular". If you live in California then they are regular folks.
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.