Five "unsung" works everyone should hear

Started by kyjo, September 07, 2013, 05:53:20 PM

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Cato

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 03:21:45 PM
No one has followed any of my suggestions?! ??? :(

Let me reinforce several of them, e.g. Jehan Alain, Enescu, Medtner. 

Also keep in mind the time and money involved in following the suggestions, if one's local library has none of the CD's.
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Johnll

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 05:02:43 PM
Oh, I'm not taking it personally. :) I just don't feel like putting the effort into elaborating on the rest of my lists if no one is taking interest in the music I am trying to promote. :-\
Ok so you are not taking it personally.But you have to realize no one gives a hoot about the music you are trying to promote EXCEPT as it may appeal to them. The same goes for me. I offered a piece which no one chose to comment on. So what? Look at it this way there must be something wrong GMC guys/gals that do not agree with me. Problem solved!

kyjo

Quote from: Cato on September 16, 2013, 05:41:10 PM
Let me reinforce several of them, e.g. Jehan Alain, Enescu, Medtner. 

Also keep in mind the time and money involved in following the suggestions, if one's local library has none of the CD's.

Do you guys have something against YouTube or what? It's free, for crying out loud, and the sound quality isn't as terrible as some make it out to be. The only thing that will cost you with YT is time!

P.S. By the Enescu, do you mean Symphony no. 3, Cato? I hope so!

Sammy

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 05:34:37 PM
People need to get out of their comfort zones and realize there's more to classical music than the acknowledged "greats". What can you possibly lose if you just go on YouTube to sample a work (and then, hopefully, buy the CD afterwards)? I mean can't you guys just take a little time out of your "busy" (note the quotation marks) schedules?

You seem quite full of yourself.  I don't need you, your multiple lists or your elaborations to appreciate works that don't possess the "great" consensus.

kyjo

Quote from: Sammy on September 16, 2013, 05:47:11 PM
You seem quite full of yourself.  I don't need you, your multiple lists or your elaborations to appreciate works that don't possess the "great" consensus.

Well I don't need your constant negativity. ::)

kyjo

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Look, guys, I'm not trying to be a pompous jerk (although I may come across as being one); I'm just trying to figure out what's keeping you from investigating "unsung" music. :)

Sammy

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 05:02:43 PM
Oh, I'm not taking it personally. :) I just don't feel like putting the effort into elaborating on the rest of my lists if no one is taking interest in the music I am trying to promote. :-\

I don't understand your way of thinking about this.  If I put forward a list or elaboration on works/composers I love, I'm not looking for anyone else to take interest nor am I trying to promote said works or composers.  They're my choices and what other folks do or think about them means nothing.

You must be a much more "social" person than I am (it takes very little to be more social than the Bulldog).

Sammy

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 05:51:01 PM
Look, guys, I'm not trying to be a pompous jerk (although I may come across as being one); I'm just trying to figure out what's keeping you from investigating "unsung" music. :)

Why do you assume that folks who aren't responding to your list items don't investigate "unsung" music? 

kyjo

Quote from: Sammy on September 16, 2013, 05:55:20 PM
I don't understand your way of thinking about this.  If I put forward a list or elaboration on works/composers I love, I'm not looking for anyone else to take interest nor am I trying to promote said works or composers.  They're my choices and what other folks do or think about them means nothing.

You must be a much more "social" person than I am (it takes very little to be more social than the Bulldog).

Yes, I'm a tough one to figure out! :D You're absolutely right that one's own opinion is more important than those of others. I'm just trying to encourage others to just give the music a try. That's all. Exposure is key!

I wouldn't really consider myself a social person. It all depends on the situation. I enjoy a good balance between quietness and outgoingness in my life. A lot of my outgoingness is channeled in GMG, where I am able to express my love for what connects us all here, music. :)

kyjo

Quote from: Sammy on September 16, 2013, 06:01:03 PM
Why do you assume that folks who aren't responding to your list items don't investigate "unsung" music?

I'm not assuming anything. I just wish those that have investigated the music would report back with their thoughts. I know many folks here are familiar with unfamiliar repertoire, which is great. I see you're an admirer of Miaskovsky, who I would definitely place in the "unsung" category. He's one of my favorites! :)

Sammy

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 06:01:53 PM
Yes, I'm a tough one to figure out! :D You're absolutely right that one's own opinion is more important than those of others. I'm just trying to encourage others to just give the music a try. That's all. Exposure is key!

I'm not into exposure.  I am here to relate a few aspects of my musical personality/preferences and receive info. and insight (that's where Premont is tops in my book).

Sammy

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 06:04:15 PM
I'm not assuming anything. I just wish those that have investigated the music would report back with their thoughts.

There could be many members who will investigate the works on your lists.  However, they might be rather busy these days with a backlog of discs to get to, important work projects and heavy family responsibilities.  Perhaps someone just received two boxes of Wagner's "Ring" and is dedicated to digging into both sets before hitting your lists.  The possibilities are endless.

Johnll

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 06:04:15 PM
I'm not assuming anything. I just wish those that have investigated the music would report back with their thoughts. I know many folks here are familiar with unfamiliar repertoire, which is great. I see you're an admirer of Miaskovsky, who I would definitely place in the "unsung" category. He's one of my favorites! :)

I am a GMC lurker. Miaskovsky, and heaven forbid, even more unsung names are not unsung on the board if you avail the achieves. Nevertheless all contributions have value in the context of the foregoing which the mouse at your hand can devour

Cato

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 05:44:29 PM
Do you guys have something against YouTube or what? It's free, for crying out loud, and the sound quality isn't as terrible as some make it out to be. The only thing that will cost you with YT is time!

P.S. By the Enescu, do you mean Symphony no. 3, Cato? I hope so!

YouTube can be an alternative, depending on the computer's sound system.  Not everyone has a computer with good sound, but they probably do have a decent stereo system.  (I would be the example here!   :laugh:  )

"Yes" to all 3 of the Enescu symphonies!
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Mirror Image

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Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 05:34:37 PM
People need to get out of their comfort zones and realize there's more to classical music than the acknowledged "greats". What can you possibly lose if you just go on YouTube to sample a work (and then, hopefully, buy the CD afterwards)? I mean can't you guys just take a little time out of your "busy" (note the quotation marks) schedules?

I'm all for exploring unknown repertoire as you know, but I also have to respect that not everybody has my exploratory attitude. Don't take it personally if nobody wants to check out composers you admire. If someone here asks for advice on a composer that I happen to enjoy, then I usually jump right in with a recommendation, but if they're discussing a composer I care nothing about, then I don't have any business commenting, because I have nothing substantial to add. We're all busy with our own interests and I think you may be expecting a bit too much out of the members here. If somebody wants to explore a composer's work on one of your lists, great, if not, then it shouldn't matter. Don't take people here not being 'interested' in any of the composers on your lists so personally.

Johnll

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 16, 2013, 07:24:40 PM
I'm all for exploring unknown repertoire as you know, but I also have to respect that not everybody has my exploratory attitude. Don't take it personally if nobody wants to check out composers you admire. If someone here asks for advice on a composer that I happen to enjoy, then I usually jump right in with a recommendation, but if they're discussing a composer I care nothing about, then I don't have any business commenting, because I have nothing substantial to add. We're all busy with our own interests and I think you may be expecting a bit too much out of the members here. If somebody wants to explore a composer's work on one of your lists, great, if not, then it shouldn't matter. Don't take people here not being 'interested' in any of the composers on your lists so personally.

That's so cool!!


Johnll



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Kyjo - I look at these lists a bit differently. They are more of a reference for me now that i can come back to at any time - it could be a week, a month or 5 years, but your post will still be there.

At the moment, and I speak only for myself, I rarely start listening to music that is new to me right away. I usually let it percolate a bit. At some point, I will see the composer or piece mentioned a bit and I will remember that I saw it before. Or, I will get into a mood where I want to hear something new (I must be in the mood). For me, especially with more dissonant and modern music, I prefer those pieces in the afternoon (at the begnnning and end of the day - I want something a bit more calm/relaxing), so that may limit me as well.

Let me share something with you - I don't really get a huge response to what I listen to here. I don't take it personally. There are a lot of potential reasons for it. But that is not why I post here. I post here in order to share a passion. Maybe only a few people will take up my recommendations (and they may never post about it), but I much prefer to receive them than to give them. So I have not checked out any of your suggestions so far (though I know several of them), but rest assured they are on a list and many of them will probably be heard over the course of the next several week/months/years. Let me give you an examlple - Meij was posted on GMG some months ago. Within the past month or so, it was reposted again, and now being a bit more familiar with him, I went over to youtube and was totally enthralled by his symphony. The difference is, I have no idea where that was origally posted, but with this thread, I will have a good starting point.
Be kind to your fellow posters!!