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« Reply #120 on: March 27, 2021, 06:21:45 AM »
I have that in a Brilliant release. It is incomplete in that the 8th is conducted by Menuhin and the 9th by Paavo Järvi, both with the RPO. I find it good to superb, this latter epithet applying to the 7th symphony. I was curious to hear Kosler in the last two (he has recorded them), so I recently bought the 8th, also with the Slovak PO. It is as good as his 7th. Haven’t heard the 9th though. Considering they exist and were recorded with the same orchestra I don’t understand why Brilliant chose to exclude them from the set, though. The tone poems are included. Not a first or even second choice, but some great performances from Kosler and characterful playing from the Slovak Phil.

Andre - I did exactly the same - tracking down the "missing" 8&9.  The rest of your evaluation I would say is spot-on.  I got it in that big 40 disc Brilliant box which has some very fine recordings alongside some pretty average ones.  The String Quartets are excellent and (from memory) I like the Slovak PO/Kosler Stabat Mater too which has some real Slavic fervour in the choral singing.  The Jarvi No.9 is one of the most perverse performances of any standard work I can remember hearing!

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« Reply #121 on: March 27, 2021, 12:11:46 PM »
Funny ! Why would they do that ? My set of the symphonies is a standalone box with individual cds. I also have Kosler’s Requiem and Stabat Mater. The Requiem is quite fine but not on the level of Sawallisch or Ancerl, while the SM is one of the best, on a par with Smetacek - more consolatory, less desolate, a slightly different POV then.

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« Reply #122 on: March 27, 2021, 12:22:52 PM »
Funny ! Why would they do that ? My set of the symphonies is a standalone box with individual cds. I also have Kosler’s Requiem and Stabat Mater. The Requiem is quite fine but not on the level of Sawallisch or Ancerl, while the SM is one of the best, on a par with Smetacek - more consolatory, less desolate, a slightly different POV then.

The Stabat Mater is a great work full stop!  There is something about Slavic choirs who bring an intensity and fervour to their singing that lifts music to quite another realm.  Kosler achieves that.  I have the Smetacek version but in all honesty don't remember much about it so I'll put that right as soon as I can!

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« Reply #123 on: March 27, 2021, 03:22:15 PM »
Thanks for the feedback everyone. Turns out I can't seem to find a decent very good condition set of the Kertesz (in any of the three formats) at a reasonable price.

How about Rowicki? How does this set compare to Kertesz (ie. performance energy, tempos, sound quality?)
There's a "Used-very good" one here for about $30.  https://www.amazon.com/Dvorak-Symphonies-Anton%C3%ADn-Dvořák/dp/B0000041WV/ref=pd_sbs_3?pd_rd_w=HNVVH&pf_rd_p=2419a049-62bf-452e-b0d0-ca5b7e35a7b4&pf_rd_r=Y63C2GB3Z0X78CCQR4NC&pd_rd_r=3c1e4854-11f5-4309-894f-ae5879191a2b&pd_rd_wg=Y1CPn&pd_rd_i=B0000041WV&psc=1

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« Reply #124 on: March 28, 2021, 05:10:15 AM »
There's a "Used-very good" one here for about $30.  https://www.amazon.com/Dvorak-Symphonies-Anton%C3%ADn-Dvořák/dp/B0000041WV/ref=pd_sbs_3?pd_rd_w=HNVVH&pf_rd_p=2419a049-62bf-452e-b0d0-ca5b7e35a7b4&pf_rd_r=Y63C2GB3Z0X78CCQR4NC&pd_rd_r=3c1e4854-11f5-4309-894f-ae5879191a2b&pd_rd_wg=Y1CPn&pd_rd_i=B0000041WV&psc=1

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Yes, thank you PD. I think I may have come across that one. I will keep that one under consideration.

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« Reply #125 on: March 28, 2021, 05:54:34 AM »
Re: this



I've attached a very detailed review for those interested.
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« Reply #126 on: March 28, 2021, 05:58:13 AM »
Re: this



I've attached a very detailed review for those interested.

Yes Andrei, I am tempted by this, particularly for some of the lesser known works.

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« Reply #127 on: March 28, 2021, 06:14:33 AM »
Yes Andrei, I am tempted by this, particularly for some of the lesser known works.

I have it but haven't listened to it in its entirety. Whatever I've heard, though, I liked (precisely some lesser known works).
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« Reply #128 on: March 29, 2021, 04:20:21 AM »
Oh well.....it looks like I am SOL for both Kertesz and Rowicki.  Can't find a good quality set of those at a humanly decent price.

The 9-disc non-remastered Kertesz set from 2014 is available from Amazon UK (~ £34) and Presto Classical (~ £42):



From what I've read, it seems to have the same mastering as the old 6-disc "portrait" set which I own. The sound on this is reasonable for mid 1960s.
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« Reply #129 on: March 29, 2021, 07:27:47 AM »
The 9-disc non-remastered Kertesz set from 2014 is available from Amazon UK (~ £34) and Presto Classical (~ £42):



From what I've read, it seems to have the same mastering as the old 6-disc "portrait" set which I own. The sound on this is reasonable for mid 1960s.

Thanks, Bluto.

I did end up placing an order for a used (very good condition) copy of the original London 6-disc set from Amazon Canada at an ok price.

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« Reply #130 on: March 29, 2021, 07:34:47 AM »
Thanks, Bluto.

I did end up placing an order for a used (very good condition) copy of the original London 6-disc set from Amazon Canada at an ok price.

Ray - same set that I've own a long time - you should be pleased.  Dave :)




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« Reply #131 on: March 29, 2021, 07:54:24 AM »
Ray - same set that I've own a long time - you should be pleased.  Dave :)

Thanks Dave!  :)

I also ended up ordering the Suitner, Kubelik and the Naxos complete orchestral works.   :D  I went a bit crazy, but it has been a "project on the backburner" to re-discover Dvorak that I finally felt ready to start.

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« Reply #132 on: March 30, 2021, 02:51:39 AM »
I don't think anyone's been mentioning the box that started my Dvorak collection:



Contents include Harnoncourt's performances of Symphonies 7-9 and the Erben tone poems, which seem to be widely liked.

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