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Offline Mandryka

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Re: Avant garde music for that piece of furniture called a piano.
« Reply #60 on: April 03, 2021, 11:43:37 PM »
Suddenly I find myself really enjoying Mark Andre’s piano music, I guess like everything, the music has to match your mood if you’re going to appreciate it. A debt to Stockhausen seems possible, on the basis of very superficial listening to both composers!

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Re: Avant garde music for that piece of furniture called a piano.
« Reply #61 on: April 04, 2021, 06:32:54 AM »
Tom Johnson: An Hour for Piano
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« Reply #62 on: April 04, 2021, 10:57:22 PM »


There are some incredible, astonishing, things on this one -- the best new discovery for a long time. Traces for piano and live electronics, Fantasy for piano, Less than Two. This is a magnificent album.

Returning to this this morning I feel exactly the same way, this is one of the most interesting and stimulating piano recordings I know.
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Re: Avant garde music for that piece of furniture called a piano.
« Reply #63 on: April 05, 2021, 05:28:40 PM »
Tom Johnson: An Hour for Piano
by Kai Schumacher
I don't know. Am I in the right place?

Some might quibble with calling a "minimalist" work avant-garde, but I see no problem. Especially since Rzewski recorded the piece.

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Re: Avant garde music for that piece of furniture called a piano.
« Reply #64 on: May 03, 2021, 07:27:57 AM »


This CD features quite a long and exploratory piece of music called Beginners Mind, I have to say that it’s one of the more interesting examples of piano music I’ve ever heard, a systematic exploration of a range of styles. Ian Pace is in fine fettle for it, and well recorded too. Zimmermann is, I think, a good composer - in a Howard Skempton/Laurence Crane sort of way.
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« Reply #65 on: May 05, 2021, 07:34:24 AM »


Sensual performance well recorded - possibly the best new release of 2021 and it’s only the start of  May.
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« Reply #66 on: May 06, 2021, 05:10:58 PM »
It is because of threads like this that I think that this is the best classical music forum I have participated in.  It is very enlightening.

I have participated in other forums where threads like this were taken over and ruined by people who hated avant garde music.

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« Reply #67 on: May 09, 2021, 06:49:46 AM »


I discovered this CD and the piano player through exploring performances of Sciarrino’s Perdute in un cità d’acque. I thought Stafano Malferrari moved it forward really skilfully, it caught my attention in a positive way. I then went on to enjoy his way with Danatoni’s Françoises Variationen (why the mixture of French and German? Does anyone know?)

There seem to be three sets of the Donatoni variations by the way - so this must be a significant piece in his oeuvre.

Anyway, he’s a musician for me to follow. And the experience made me realise that I know so little of what’s happening with music in Italy today.
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« Reply #68 on: May 09, 2021, 06:58:44 AM »
I have participated in other forums where threads like this were taken over and ruined by people who hated avant garde music.

It is not fair to say that one hates avant-garde music. Such people should be moderated. It must be sufficient to state that one is not attracted to it
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« Reply #69 on: May 09, 2021, 07:03:05 AM »
Mandryka, do you recall the Fluxus festival in Copenhagen somewhere in the 1960es (I only saw it on TV) where David Tudor interrupted his playing and then with an ax shattered the piano completely. This is performance, but is it art, and if yes then why?
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Re: Avant garde music for that piece of furniture called a piano.
« Reply #70 on: May 09, 2021, 07:04:36 AM »
Mandryka, do you recall the Fluxus festival in Copenhagen somewhere in the 1960es (I only saw it on TV) where David Tudor interrupted his playing and then with an ax shattered the piano completely. This is performance, but is it art, and if yes then why?

i don’t know how to answer the question.
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« Reply #71 on: May 09, 2021, 07:06:34 AM »
i don’t know how to answer the question.

Nor do I. This is why I asked you.  :)
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Re: Avant garde music for that piece of furniture called a piano.
« Reply #72 on: May 09, 2021, 07:07:05 AM »


This CD features quite a long and exploratory piece of music called Beginners Mind, I have to say that it’s one of the more interesting examples of piano music I’ve ever heard, a systematic exploration of a range of styles. Ian Pace is in fine fettle for it, and well recorded too. Zimmermann is, I think, a good composer - in a Howard Skempton/Laurence Crane sort of way.

Everybody who loves life and poetry should take Herbert Henck’s recording of Walter Zimmermann’s Beginner’s Mind forthwith.

https://soundcloud.com/user-985460328/walter-zimmermann-beginners
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« Reply #73 on: May 09, 2021, 07:09:45 AM »
Nor do I. This is why I asked you.  :)

Did you get Yasmina Reza’s play Art in Denmark?

https://vimeo.com/6789494
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« Reply #74 on: May 09, 2021, 07:22:58 AM »
Did you get Yasmina Reza’s play Art in Denmark?

https://vimeo.com/6789494

Not that I know.
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Re: Avant garde music for that piece of furniture called a piano.
« Reply #75 on: May 09, 2021, 03:19:05 PM »
It is not fair to say that one hates avant-garde music. Such people should be moderated. It must be sufficient to state that one is not attracted to it

I think I can say this in this forum without getting into trouble.

There are many contemporary and avant garde composers I do no understand.  For example I do no get Stockhausen.  That is just my opinion.  And an opinion is like a rectum.  Everybody has one.  I know that we have many members who follow Stockhausen.  They really do not care what my opinion is of Stockhausen, so why bother to mention it.  Who knows.  Some day I may run into a Stockhausen that I like.

Most want to know about the music we like and do not care about the music we dislike.

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Re: Avant garde music for that piece of furniture called a piano.
« Reply #76 on: May 10, 2021, 05:30:50 AM »
Some day I may run into a Stockhausen that I like.

It's possible as his works have varied across the years, some were thoroughly composed while others were just suggestions to the performers.

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« Reply #77 on: May 15, 2021, 04:07:24 AM »


Rytis Mazulis uses a computer to compose and then to perform his piano music. I know half of you won’t believe me,  but it is thrilling stuff: brutal, fast beyond the limits of what mortals alone can do. This is piano music for the Merzbau fraternity.

The title is interesting. Twittering Machine could refer to Twitter, the frantic and unreasonable plethora of tweets. It could also refer to Paul Klee’s extraordinary painting of the same name.



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