John Simon does not care for Bach, Mozart, or Beethoven

[The Six]

Beethoven was the start of the Romantic Era.

Don't think it really matters, because it's Simon's opinion and not mine, but Beethoven is Classical through and through.

[mn dave]

Don't think it really matters, because it's Simon's opinion and not mine, but Beethoven is Classical through and through.

I'm not hearing that towards the end of his career.

[Geo Dude]

The Wiki sentence immediately prior to that proves Ebert's point:
[...] Barbra Streisand's nose "cleaves the giant screen from east to west, bisects it from north to south. It zigzags across our horizon like a bolt of fleshy lightning", while Kathleen Turner is a "braying mantis"."

Well, that's just pure class!

[The new erato]

Don't think it really matters, because it's Simon's opinion and not mine, but Beethoven is Classical through and through.

Late Beethoven is Beethoven, and simply unclassifiable.

[Karl Henning]

I like Bach, Mozart & Beethoven. What do I care what Jn Simon does not care for?

[The Six]

I like Bach, Mozart & Beethoven. What do I care what Jn Simon does not care for?

Interesting stance to take on a message board, which only exists for us to share our opinions. You know, talk about what you like and don't like?

[Karl Henning]

Oh, has Jn Simon expressed his dislikes here at GMG?

[The Six]

Oh, ok, you exclusively discuss people who actively post on this message board, then. Got it. Any outside column or opinion that may be shared here is instantly banished to the Land of Not Care. Right.

[North Star]

We need a new thread: Karl Henning and several others do not care for John Simon's music taste

[Karl Henning]

The I'm sorry, was there someone who actually cares about Jn Simon's opinion? Thread!

[The Six]

Of course, if Simon said something you agreed with, you'd definitely care. We like to become dismissive of things after we find out we don't like them. If the blog post was showering praise on Bach as the Father of Music, would anyone flippantly declare that they "don't care" what he thinks, then? Probably not.

Not to mention the fact that posting on a message board presumes that anyone cares about your opinion, as well.

[aquablob]

 

[North Star]

Of course, if Simon said something you agreed with, you'd definitely care. We like to become dismissive of things after we find out we don't like them. If the blog post was showering praise on Bach as the Father of Music, would anyone flippantly declare that they "don't care" what he thinks, then? Probably not.

That would be just as silly, of course - but far less annoying.

We like to become dismissive of things after we find out we don't like them.

Does this remind you of any blogger? And see Mirror Image's post - it's not like he likes these three much more than Simon does, and they have plenty of mutual favourites. That doesn't stop him from seeing the value of the blog post as a sedative.

[Karl Henning]

Worth pointing out (what is a recurring theme on GMG) that just because it's someone's opinion, doesn't make it sacred.  Some opinions are better informed than others.  Some, indeed, much better informed.  "I don't like Bach" doesn't even rise to the level of opinion, really;  and a mere statement of dislike is no matter of great interest.

[The Six]

Who said any opinion is sacred? Simon's opinion is unfortunately dumb and uninformed. Posting "I don't care what he thinks" two days after the thread appeared to die its rightful death is also dumb and boring. We got it.

[Dancing Divertimentian]

That doesn't stop him from seeing the value of the blog post as a sedative.

[Mirror Image]

Of course, if Simon said something you agreed with, you'd definitely care. We like to become dismissive of things after we find out we don't like them. If the blog post was showering praise on Bach as the Father of Music, would anyone flippantly declare that they "don't care" what he thinks, then? Probably not.

I wouldn't care if he liked Bach or disliked Bach. He could hypothetically despise RVW or Bartok, too, and I still wouldn't care. To say that, for example, Beethoven's Piano Concerto No. 5 'Emperor' lacks emotion is an absurd opinion to hold as would be to claim Mozart's Clarinet Concerto was emotionless. But if this John Simon wants to continue look like an uneducated fool, then let him knock himself out! Nobody here cares!!!

[lisa needs braces]

I wouldn't care if he liked Bach or disliked Bach. He could hypothetically despise RVW or Bartok, too, and I still wouldn't care. To say that, for example, Beethoven's Piano Concerto No. 5 'Emperor' lacks emotion is an absurd opinion to hold as would be to claim Mozart's Clarinet Concerto was emotionless. But if this John Simon wants to continue look like an uneducated fool, then let him knock himself out! Nobody here cares!!!

Yes, his points are pretty absurd.

[DavidW]

I don't know who John Simon is or why I should care what some random critic thinks about anything.