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Henk

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Quote from: North Star on January 11, 2016, 05:23:36 AM
First of all, I'm sure you have never studied physics - Newtonian mechanics, not to mention quantum mechanics, right? If that is the case, your common sense and intuition aren't worth much, since the modern physics (and Mills's rehash of cold fusion doesn't differ here) is essentially counterintuitive. Seemingly continuous matter and energy are quantifiable, and so on. I also find it alarming that while you'd rather trust your own 'common sense and intuition' and a business owner who has never done anything but seek funding, for 25 years, instead of anyone who has actually studied physics or empirically tested Mills's claims, and found that they don't hold up, thinking that everyone else is paranoid..

Of course I have had courses in physics. I did high school on highest level.

Mills continues the path of classical physics. He may be praised to do so. On the contrary so called modern science if it's counterintuitive well you can ask yourself if it can be maintained. I'm not against quantummechanics however, as Mills is, it should be made more intuitive.

Mills predications are proven and validated by independent parties as far as I know. It's easy for mainstream science to ignore somebody who has different ideas.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

milk

Quote from: Henk on January 11, 2016, 05:10:13 AM
I have more confidence in genius that in a bunch of scholars.
It's not about having confidence in people. You misunderstand what is science. Science is the best way to understand reality. Perhaps knowledgeable people here can explain about process, results, verification and falsification. I go with the scientific process because it's reliable. This doesn't having anything to do with the people. Rather, it's the work these people do in their fields that give them credibility. Everyone in their field is constantly trying to prove the work wrong, including them. 

Henk

Quote from: North Star on January 11, 2016, 05:23:36 AM
First of all, I'm sure you have never studied physics - Newtonian mechanics, not to mention quantum mechanics, right? If that is the case, your common sense and intuition aren't worth much, since the modern physics (and Mills's rehash of cold fusion doesn't differ here) is essentially counterintuitive. Seemingly continuous matter and energy are quantifiable, and so on. I also find it alarming that while you'd rather trust your own 'common sense and intuition' and a business owner who has never done anything but seek funding, for 25 years, instead of anyone who has actually studied physics or empirically tested Mills's claims, and found that they don't hold up, thinking that everyone else is paranoid..

What insulting words.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

Henk

Quote from: milk on January 11, 2016, 05:36:56 AM
It's not about having confidence in people. You misunderstand what is science. Science is the best way to understand reality. Perhaps knowledgeable people here can explain about process, results, verification and falsification. I go with the scientific process because it's reliable. This doesn't having anything to do with the people. Rather, it's the work these people do in their fields that give them credibility. Everyone in their field is constantly trying to prove the work wrong, including them.

The mainstream of scientist are not aware of anything of what science is according to philosophy. They distantiate themselve from philosophy, which doesn't benefit the quality and reflection of/on their work much. For example they all suffer from the basic fallacy that their are laws in nature, there are not, science can only describe nature.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

Henk

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Quote from: milk on January 11, 2016, 05:36:56 AM
It's not about having confidence in people. You misunderstand what is science. Science is the best way to understand reality. Perhaps knowledgeable people here can explain about process, results, verification and falsification. I go with the scientific process because it's reliable. This doesn't having anything to do with the people. Rather, it's the work these people do in their fields that give them credibility. Everyone in their field is constantly trying to prove the work wrong, including them.

Could be, but with much biases and hiatus.  A good scientist must be aware of this and not overestimate science. Also, define "best". One could say of philosophy that it's the most deep, pragmatic and enriching way to understand reality.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

Henk

Arnold Cornelis offers a nice definition of science, namely: "science could be seen as the systematic approach to prevent humanity from madness." A nice one! :)
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

North Star

Quote from: Henk on January 11, 2016, 05:30:51 AM
Mills continues the path of classical physics. He may be praised to do so. On the contrary so called modern science if it's counterintuitive well you can ask yourself if it can be maintained. I'm not against quantummechanics however, as Mills is, it should be made more intuitive.

Mills predications are proven and validated by independent parties as far as I know. It's easy for mainstream science to ignore somebody who has different ideas.
First of all, Mills's theory is not 'classical physics'. It uses quantum mechanics (the whole idea of the hydrogen atoms' hydrino energy level is purely a QM-based concept - there are no energy levels in classical physics), although quite wrongly.
Your suggestion that QM is wrong because it's counterintuitive doesn't make sense, either. Is Chinese wrong if it seems counterintuitive to me?

Quote from: Henk on January 11, 2016, 05:37:38 AM
What insulting words.
Truth insults those who despise it.
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The new erato

Quote from: Henk on January 11, 2016, 05:41:34 AM
The mainstream of scientist are not aware of anything of what science is according to philosophy. They distantiate themselve from philosophy, which doesn't benefit the quality and reflection of/on their work much. For example they all suffer from the basic fallacy that their are laws in nature, there are not, science can only describe nature.
In which case no inventions could ever be possible. Of course science is descriptive, but the descriptions has their scientific use (or abuse). But please continue, this is quite entertaining.

bwv 1080

A scientist must make replicable and falsifiable claims, which Randall Mills has not - classic sign of charlatan

Henk

Quote from: North Star on January 11, 2016, 05:53:17 AM
First of all, Mills's theory is not 'classical physics'. It uses quantum mechanics (the whole idea of the hydrogen atoms' hydrino energy level is purely a QM-based concept - there are no energy levels in classical physics), although quite wrongly.

Well, Mills tells differently. Who should I believe? A guy writing on a forum called GMG or the genius himself?
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

The new erato

Quote from: Henk on January 11, 2016, 05:59:40 AM
Well, Mills tells differently. Who should I believe? A guy writing on a forum called GMG or the genius himself?
It all hinges on the definition of genius. Have you reflected on why the change of name of his company?

bwv 1080

Quote from: Henk on January 11, 2016, 05:59:40 AM
Well, Mills tells differently. Who should I believe? A guy writing on a forum called GMG or the genius himself?

neither - just check if there is independent verification of the claims of the 'genius'

Henk

'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)


Henk

Most importantly of course is the energy problem would be fixed and Mills gives hope which ITER can't provide. Mills provides an elegant solution to a world threatening problem. That's something to feel good about. It's about believe rather than truth. The taming of the sun. That's just awesome!
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

The new erato

And I believe in universal peace and love. A laudable goal. Doesn't mean it's bound to happen!

bwv 1080

Quote from: The new erato on January 11, 2016, 06:27:47 AM
And I believe in universal peace and love. A laudable goal. Doesn't mean it's bound to happen!

yet another proposition lacking empirical evidence...

The new erato

Quote from: bwv 1080 on January 11, 2016, 06:30:32 AM
yet another proposition lacking empirical evidence...
Doesn't matter since I'm a genius!

Henk

All you guys should do some more study. Can't explain everything to you.. yet.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

The new erato

Quote from: Henk on January 11, 2016, 06:57:08 AM
All you guys should do some more study. Can't explain everything to you.. yet.
Having spent 5 years studying for a master in electrophysics including a 5 year stint as a scientist in Norwegian Telcom's research lab in the early 80'ies, I'm spent studying in that area. Took an MBA and turned to IT and Finance instead :-), much more fun (and much more loose money).

I sort of admire your strong beliefs, just make sure you don't invest money you can ill afford to lose.