Started by torut, March 08, 2014, 11:05:54 AM
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Quote from: North Star on March 08, 2014, 12:36:25 PMI can't say I value Lebrecht much at all. Alex Ross's The Rest Is Noise is a brilliant book though, even if it does glance over some composers (Wuorinen, under who Karl studied).http://www.therestisnoise.com/
Quote from: amw on March 08, 2014, 06:26:03 PMThere isn't really a good book for a newbie. Ross, Lebrecht and Taruskin (Oxford History of Western Music vols. 4 & 5) have very journalistic styles—accessible for sure, but partial, sensationalised and biased. I don't know Paul Griffiths's Modern Music and After, which some people have praised as a good alternative to those three, while also criticising it as dry and scholarly.Also, there's very little writing on contemporary music to be found. For that you may want to wait for Tim Rutherford-Johnson's book which I'm hopeful for at least. Otherwise, I suggest reading a lot of books—not just one or two—while carefully analysing the language used to refer to particular composers or works, and bearing in mind that the mainstream narratives tend to ignore any 20th century music from countries other than America, Russia, Germany, Austria, France and Britain.
Quote from: jochanaan on March 09, 2014, 07:24:04 AMOr perhaps, instead of buying books, you could listen to the music.
Quote from: torut on March 09, 2014, 07:52:41 AMThank you, both books look good for learning the composers in depth.A good advice. I understand the danger of indulging too much in peripheral information about music that may prevent appreciating the music itself without prejudice or bias. (There was a good example in Japan recently ... )Actually, my original intention was to find a good reference book about contemporary music with concise description of each composer, so I can find new composers by skimming it or know basic information about interesting composers. For that purpose, I think the Lebrecht book is good, and I am wondering if there are any this kind of books with more updated information.
Quote from: Ken B on March 09, 2014, 08:23:26 AMLebrecht is a highly opinionated with a lot of hobby horses. That exactly describes a lot of us here! It's the kind of mix that leads to contention.
Quote from: Artem on March 09, 2014, 06:57:29 PMThis topic is a great idea, because I always look for good books about music.I'm a big fan of The Rest is Noise book. I didn't like Paul Griffith's Modern Music and After, because, even though it is more inclusive of modern composers, it actually reads like a dictionary. There're several books that I'd highly recommend that are related to the New York School of composers, specifically, Give My Regards to Eight Street: Collected Writings of Morton Feldman edited by B.H. Friedman, The New York Schools of Music and Visual Arts edited by Steven Johnson, Renee Levine Packer's This Life of Sounds: Evenings for New Music in Buffalo and Christian Wolff by Michael Hicks and Chrisitan Asplund.
Quote from: amw on March 09, 2014, 08:48:13 PMHe also makes a lot of factual mistakes, which I guess also describes a lot of us here.
Quote from: torut on March 09, 2014, 11:13:18 PMOh ... so, even the companion book is unreliable as a reference? I also have the book of musical anecdotes. Does it also have many factual mistakes?
Quote from: Artem on March 09, 2014, 06:57:29 PMThere're several books that I'd highly recommend that are related to the New York School of composers, specifically, Give My Regards to Eight Street: Collected Writings of Morton Feldman edited by B.H. Friedman, The New York Schools of Music and Visual Arts edited by Steven Johnson, Renee Levine Packer's This Life of Sounds: Evenings for New Music in Buffalo and Christian Wolff by Michael Hicks and Chrisitan Asplund.
Quote from: Cato on March 10, 2014, 06:06:00 AMAllow me to recommend a book about 3 of the top "H's" in classical music after 1920:Hartmann, Hindemith, and Henze by Guy Rickards.See:http://www.amazon.com/Hartmann-Hindemith-Henze-Century-Composers/dp/0714831743
QuoteHear the name "Igor Stravinsky" and the first thing that comes to mind is a composer of ponderous, "serious" music.
Quote from: James on March 10, 2014, 06:41:31 AMArnold Schoenberg's Journey (Allen Shawn)Proposing that Arnold Schoenberg has been more discussed than heard, more tolerated than loved, Allen Shawn puts aside ultimate judgments about Schoenberg's place in music history to explore the composer's fascinating world in a series of linked essays--"soundings"--that are both searching and wonderfully suggestive. Approaching Schoenberg primarily from the listener's point of view, Shawn plunges into the details of some of Schoenberg's works while at the same time providing a broad overview of his involvements in music, painting, and the history through which he lived.[asin]0674011015[/asin]
Quote from: Cato on March 10, 2014, 06:56:25 AMThis book I can also recommend: rather unusual in its goals.
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