Started by torut, March 08, 2014, 11:05:54 AM
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Quote from: James on April 29, 2014, 04:57:06 PMhe was rightfully trashed by composers in my opinion.
Quote from: James on April 29, 2014, 04:57:06 PMCage always seemed rather vapid & empty-headed to me .. just like the stuff he put out there. He talked a lot but his composing just doesn't add up to much .. he was rightfully trashed by composers in my opinion.
Quote from: petrarch on April 19, 2014, 05:32:36 AMWonderful book on John Cage. It is a great complement to James Pritchett's.[asin]0143123475[/asin]
Quote from: EigenUser on April 29, 2014, 05:12:05 PMMeh... I don't think he was rightfully trashed. I like his ideas on music, but not his music. I think of him as a musical philosopher more than a composer. Based on what I've heard from him (unless I'm totally misunderstanding him), it seems like he'd almost agree.
Quote from: torut on April 29, 2014, 06:09:40 PMWhich composers trashed him?
Quote from: James on April 29, 2014, 04:57:06 PMCage always seemed rather vapid & empty-headed to me [...]
Quote from: North Star on April 30, 2014, 12:40:06 AMDaniel Asia.
QuoteIn a few years time, Cage will be a small footnote to all of this, remembered if at all, for his self-advertising, whimsy and smile, and love of mushrooms. But for his music, not a chance.
Quote from: torut on April 30, 2014, 09:54:06 PMI read the huffingtonpost article. It is full of hyperbolic words trying to pretend that his personal preference is an eternal truth.
Quote from: zamyrabyrd on June 06, 2014, 03:43:13 AMThese three books on Debussy seemed interesting and companionable so I got myself a triple present: "Images, The Piano Music of Claude Debussy", "Claude Debussy" by Paul Roberts and "Debussy in Proportion" by Roy Howat. The first I discovered on a youtube masterclass.ZB
Quote from: petrarch on April 25, 2014, 06:44:01 AMNot at all. The letters in Nattiez's book cover 1949-1962 (admittedly too early to be an indicator of how their friendship would develop in later years) and all are very amicable and enthusiastic throughout.
Quote from: ritter on June 13, 2014, 06:31:07 AMAdded this other book (unknown to me up to now) to my order:Pierre Boulez in conversation with François Meïmoun on the music and literature that influenced him early on in his career....
Quote from: ritter on June 23, 2014, 12:22:44 PMpetrarch, torut...I've now read the Meïmoun book of conversations with Boulez (it's less than 100 pages long), and yes, it is interesting. It deals with a very specific period in the composer's development (roughly from his arrival in Paris in 1943 through the early years of his involvement with the Renaud-Barrault troupe). In a nutshell, one could say, it describes the progress of Boulez from being exposed to modernity--embodied by Honegger in the last years of occupied Paris--to being involved with the avantarde--in the late forties. We can read about his well-known dislike for Leibowitz, about Messiaen, etc., but also about less known stuff such as an early admiration for some Jolivet works (the Danses rituelles and Mana), his--not very positive--views on Sartre, his early literary tastes (as a teeneager, he had set a Théophile Gautier poem to music), etc. All in all, a pleasant but by no means "indispensable" read.
Quote from: ritter on June 24, 2014, 02:25:44 AMYep...the book is from 2010...the curious thing about it is that Boulez is talking about his experiences from more than 60 years earlier...The opinions are strong, but the tone is very polite and correct...
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