Favorite baroque era organ works not by Bach

Started by DavidW, March 18, 2014, 09:07:53 AM

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DavidW

Bach is known for borrowing themes from other composers and harmonizing them.  Yet his music towers over all of his contemporaries as if they are not worth listening to.  It seems crazy!  I was thinking about that when listening to Alain's amazing performances and reading about all of those works that share material with other composers.

So how about it?  What are your favorite baroque era organ works not written by Bach?  I personally plan on listening to some Buxtehude this afternoon. :)

Karl Henning

Frescobaldi, Fiori musicali (which JSB respected)
Buxtehude, Ciacona in e minor, BuxWV 160 (and more....)
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Marc

Nicolaus Bruhns (1665-1697): Praeludium und Fuge e-moll ("Große")

http://www.youtube.com/v/ifkvb9Jdl6Q

Organist: Tomasz Zebura
Instrument: Stellwagen-Orgel, Sankt Jakobi Kirche, Lübeck (Germany)

Karl Henning

Right up this street, Davey: Buxtehude, Toccata in d minor, BuxWV 155
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Marc

Quote from: karlhenning on March 18, 2014, 11:12:19 AM
Right up this street, Davey: Buxtehude, Toccata in d minor, BuxWV 155

Yeah, that's a good one, too!

Haven't been listening to the baroque organ for quite some time, but thanks to this thread I think I'm gonna take a dive into this swirling bath again!

Todd

I can't name specific works, but Buxtehude is certainly the other super-heavyweight among Baroque organ music composers to my ears.
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Marc

Another great (German) baroque organ composer was Georg Böhm (1661-1733).

Wim van Beek playing the turbulent Praeludium, Fuge und Postludium g-moll in Stylus Phantasticus (originally meant for harpsichord btw).

http://www.youtube.com/v/oiPAIULhZy8

And Böhm's beautiful Choralvorspiel Vater unser im Himmelreich, one of my eternal personal favourites:

http://www.youtube.com/v/5vHwPP1OFzQ

The instrument is the Schnitger et al of the Martinikerk, Groningen, NL.

prémont

Quote from: DavidW on March 18, 2014, 09:07:53 AM
What are your favorite baroque era organ works not written by Bach?  I personally plan on listening to some Buxtehude this afternoon. :)

Almost anything by Frescobaldi, Weckmann, Scheidemann, Scheidt, Froberger, Kerll, Georg Muffat, Bruhns, Lübeck, Buxtehude, Titelouze, Louis Couperin, du Mage, Clairambault, de Grigny

- to mention the most important.
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Karl Henning

What Louis Couperin organ CDs would you recommend?
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Wakefield

Quote from: (: premont :) on March 19, 2014, 09:58:56 AM
Almost anything by Frescobaldi, Weckmann, Scheidemann, Scheidt, Froberger, Kerll, Georg Muffat, Bruhns, Lübeck, Buxtehude, Titelouze, Louis Couperin, du Mage, Clairambault, de Grigny

- to mention the most important.

I just miss Sweelinck among the most important. Probably because he is pre-Baroque?
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prémont

Quote from: Gordo on March 19, 2014, 10:10:38 AM
I just miss Sweelinck among the most important. Probably because he is pre-Baroque?

Yes, I consider him pre-baroque. For identical reasons I did not mention Byrd.
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prémont

Quote from: karlhenning on March 19, 2014, 09:59:47 AM
What Louis Couperin organ CDs would you recommend?

Louis Couperin´s organ works are a dark chapter among recording artists.

Moroney´s CD on Temperaments is difficult to get hold on, and I neither own it nor have heard it.

The two L Couperin CDs I own are also difficult to get hold of, but worth the effort

By Jan Willem Janssen
http://www.amazon.fr/Oeuvres-Pour-Orgue-Louis-Couperin/dp/B00004W47C/ref=sr_1_37?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1395259888&sr=1-37&keywords=louis+couperin

and by Pieter Dirksen
http://www.landgoedgerianna.nl/component/page,shop.product_details/flypage,shop.flypage/product_id,6226/category_id,74/manufacturer_id,0/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,39/
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Ken B

#12
Georg Bohm
Georg Muffat
Delphin Strungk -- the best name ever
Frescobaldi, taking contemporary loosely
Buxtehude of course, same comment
At least one Couperin
Kerll
Froberger

prémont

Quote from: Ken B on March 19, 2014, 05:16:09 PM
Georg Bohm
Georg Muffat
Delphin Strungk -- the best name ever
Frescobaldi, taking contemporary loosely
Buxtehude of course, same comment
At least one Couperin
Kerll
Froberger

I considered Strungk, but decided not to rank him among the most important, but really - how could I forget Böhm??
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Ken B

Quote from: (: premont :) on March 19, 2014, 05:29:15 PM
I considered Strungk, but decided not to rank him among the most important, but really - how could I forget Böhm??
I only know a few pieces by Strungk actually, so you are probably right. But what I know I really like and I love the name!  8)

Mandryka

#15
One think that struck me about these lists is the lack of Italian names, apart from Frescobaldi. I've hardly explored the music.

By the way, Davitt Moroney's Louis Couperin recordings are easily available as a download. As far as I know he's the only one to have recorded the First Cycle of Fugues - did Blandine Verlet record them?
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prémont

Quote from: Ken B on March 19, 2014, 05:35:08 PM
I only know a few pieces by Strungk actually, so you are probably right. But what I know I really like and I love the name!  8)

I only know two recordings with music by Delphin Strungk, a composer whom I only had heard sporadically of, until I got these two CDs within the last four months.

One by Friedrich Flamme (complete works on CPO)
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/cpo/detail/-/art/Nikolaus-Adam-Strunck-S%E4mtliche-Orgelwerke/hnum/4097930

and one by David Yearsley (selected works on Loft)
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/David-Yearsley-Music-of-a-Father-and-Son/hnum/1641591

I do not hesitate to recommend both (in case of a choice the Loft is to be preferred, even if the CPO has got the advantage of being complete, but to range Strungk among my favorites would at the moment be kind of overreacting,
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Quote from: Mandryka on March 19, 2014, 11:58:21 PM
One thing that struck me about these lists is the lack of Italian names, apart from Frescobaldi. I've hardly explored the music.

Yes, as Andrea Marcon´s two organ CDs "The heritage of Frescobaldi" on Divox demonstrate, most of Frescobaldi´s important successors were German.

You may also complain about my omission of the spaniard Juan Cabanilles, who has written some interesting organ works (e.g. the Tiento ALAMIRE) but we were asked about our favorites.

Quote from: Mandryka
By the way, Davitt Moroney's Louis Couperin recordings are easily available as a download.

We differ here. I never recommend mp3 download, and I have not seen anything else of this recording.
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Marc

Quote from: Mandryka on March 19, 2014, 11:58:21 PM
One think that struck me about these lists is the lack of Italian names, apart from Frescobaldi. I've hardly explored the music. [....]

Bernardo Pasquini (1637-1710) comes to mind, even though his keyboard pieces were mainly composed for harpsichord.

For more Italian Renaissance/baroque organ stuff, you might want to check out the recordings of Liuwe Tamminga and the organ catalogue of Tactus:

http://tactus.it/home/

I.c. Iberian organ composers: during the last years, I've heard a few Tientos (in concert) of the blind Spanish composer Pablo Bruna (1611-1679), which I found very enjoyable.

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Quote from: Marc on March 20, 2014, 03:25:55 AM
I.c. Iberian organ composers: during the last years, I've heard a few Tientos (in concert) of the blind Spanish composer Pablo Bruna (1611-1679), which I found very enjoyable.

Then we might rather add Correa de Arrauxo.
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