The Nielsen Nexus

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Sergeant Rock

Quote from: karlhenning on June 26, 2012, 07:34:35 AM
But the Bostock substitutes instruments for the soli voices, yes, Sarge? (A bit strange that I've not yet visited the symphonies in this box.)

Yes and no. He gives both versions. The instrumental version is included after the last movement as a supplement and bonus.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Karl Henning

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on June 26, 2012, 07:38:39 AM
Yes and no. He gives both versions. The instrumental version is included after the last movement as a supplement and bonus.

Sarge

Perfect! For I am curious to hear the senza voci version, and yet, felt that taking away the voices was robbery . . . . : )
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

DavidRoss

#322
A contrarian note: I like Blomstedt's 3rd and prefer it and Salonen's to Bernstein's. Lenny's much too pumped up for my tastes.

And I like Schønwandt's, too. Perhaps there's a reason "the crowd of experienced Nordic music professionals gathered at the offices of Denmark’s state broadcaster" disagreed with the Englishman Mellor's assessment, along with his friend "Mats Engström (who has actually played the piece)" -- they're Scandinavians, like Nielsen, Schønwandt, and Blomstedt (despite his American birth). What might seem underplayed to some could well seem excessive to Scandinavian sensibilities. (Fair disclosure, FWIW: one of my grandparents was Swedish, another a Dane. ;^) ).
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

Sergeant Rock

#323
Quote from: DavidRoss on June 28, 2012, 06:31:46 AM
A contrarian note: I like Blomstedt's 3rd and prefer it and Salonen's to Bernstein's. Lenny's much too pumped up for my tastes.

Why am I not surprised? :D ;)

Edit: although now that I think about it, you're really not a contrarian here, David. Lenny's Espansiva isn't mentioned often by anyone but me. The author of the article ignores it. Most of the comments ignore it. In this forum Karl has spoken disparagingly of it. If I didn't know better, I would think Blomstedt is the only conductor who's done decent Nielsen in that it's so often mentioned as the best with little disagreement. You are firmly with the majority. (For the record: I like his 1, 2, and 6; 4 & 5, not so much; and really dislike 3).

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Karl Henning

Oh, gosh, have I heard and disparaged Lenny's Espansiva, and I forgot? Eek.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Sergeant Rock

#325
Quote from: karlhenning on June 28, 2012, 07:28:37 AM
Oh, gosh, have I heard and disparaged Lenny's Espansiva

Alas, yes  :'(  You didn't like it from the get go, literally  :D : you thought the opening chords sloppily played, not in unison.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Mirror Image

Bought this one today:

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Looks like this will be a promising Nielsen series. We need another cycle. I agree with Gilbert when he said "Nielsen isn't a household name, but should be."

DavidRoss

Now released as a set including other orchestral music, this is a steal!

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"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

DavidRoss

And this is none too shabby!

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"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

Scarpia


The one item I did receive in the i-Deals incident was Vanska's Nielsen cycle.  I had no idea it existed.

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For some reason, the Amazon listing seems incomplete and gets lost in searches.  It looks like this:



Most of it is with the BBC, but it strikes me as being very similar in character to the Vanska Sibelus cycle.  So far I've listened to the recording of the 1st symphony, and found it very satisfying.





Brahmsian

All Maiden Monday Listens! (works and recordings)

Nielsen

Aladdin Suite
Symphonic Rhapsody
Overture "Helios", Op. 17
Cupid and the Poet: Orchestral Suite
Paraphrase on "Nearer, My God, To Thee"
Andante Tranquillo E Scherzo for String Orchestra


Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra

*Concerto for Flute and Orchestra
Pan and Syrinx, Op. 49
Suite for String Orchestra, Op. 1
At The Bier of A Young Artist
Bohemian-Danish Folk Songs

Rune Most, flute

Czech Chamber Philharmonic Orchestra Pardubice

Douglas Bostock, conducting

Membran Music

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Impressions:  Outstanding.  I'm floored!  Terrific music.  And I was shocked by the loud crash about 3 minutes in "Paraphrase on 'Nearer, My God, To Thee'"  :o

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Cor, and you're reminding me, Ray, that I've not yet listened to the symphonies from that Bostock box . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Brahmsian

Based on my recent interest in Nielsen's music, can someone send forth recommendations for Nielsen's complete string quartets?

Merci bien!

Karl Henning

Quote from: ChamberNut on February 20, 2013, 09:05:42 AM
Based on my recent interest in Nielsen's music, can someone send forth recommendations for Nielsen's complete string quartets?

Merci bien!

Included in this table-pounder:

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Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Brahmsian

Quote from: karlhenning on February 20, 2013, 09:08:46 AM
Included in this table-pounder:

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Fast work, Karl.  Many thanks!  :)

calyptorhynchus

I'm looking for a recommendation for a CD or two of Nielsen's songs. What is the best recital (in terms of which songs and best singing) available? NB must have the lyrics and translations.
'Many men are melancholy by hearing music, but it is a pleasing melancholy that it causeth.' Robert Burton

'...is it not strange that sheepes guts should hale soules out of mens bodies?' Benedick in Much Ado About Nothing

snyprrr

Quote from: ChamberNut on February 20, 2013, 09:05:42 AM
Based on my recent interest in Nielsen's music, can someone send forth recommendations for Nielsen's complete string quartets?

Merci bien!

Too late?

Frankly, the last one is the only one that does anything for me really. Why not just start with the Oslo SQ (Naxos) Vol.1,... otherwise,... get Vol.2 also!!! 8) So,... I'm saying the Oslo SQ is the way to go... I'd pick up their Naxos of 'Norwegian String Quartets' too, which I do like better than the Nielsen (Nielsen just sounds like Haydn to me here... no offence, he just straddles that place between conservative/modern with a nod to the conservative (he's not Janacek here!!).

Karl Henning

Well, he needn't be Janáček, of course.

And as far as I am concerned, likening him to Haydn is essentially praise.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

snyprrr

Quote from: karlhenning on August 12, 2013, 05:58:57 AM
Well, he needn't be Janáček, of course.

And as far as I am concerned, likening him to Haydn is essentially praise.

I kneeew you would! ;)