Beethoven's Piano Sonatas

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Todd

#3780
I had a hankering to put together an updated list of all available complete cycles.  By my reckoning, 112 complete cycles exist, of which I possess 104.  Of the 112 cycles, either five or six might not be considered complete since in some cases the pianist died or stopped before recording all sonatas in a given cycle, or in the case of HJ Lim, she purposely left out the Op 49 sonatas.  That brings the total available to either 106 or 107, and my total to either 98 or 99 cycles.  With all the cycles underway, these totals will change.  I also decided to include the country each pianist is from to determine a geographical breakdown of sonata cycles, just for fun.  (Yes, I consider that fun, and yes, I know that it is not entirely accurate since a pianist can be born in one country but become an essentially permanent resident of another country, like Irina Mejoueva or Anton Kuerti, but I took a stab at it, anyway.)  It will be in the next post.




















































































































Country   
Pianist
  Complete  Copy
Lebanon   
Abdel Rahman El Bacha (Forlane)
 
Y
 
Y
Lebanon   
Abdel Rahman El Bacha (Mirare)
 
Y
 
Y
Japan   
Akiyoshi Sako
 
Y
 
Y
Italy   
Aldo Ciccolini
 
Y
 
Y
Austria   
Alfred Brendel (Philips, 1970s)
 
Y
 
Y
Austria   
Alfred Brendel (Philips, 1990s)
 
Y
 
Y
Austria   
Alfred Brendel (Vox)
 
Y
 
Y
Chile   
Alfredo Perl
 
Y
 
Y
Hungary   
Andras Schiff
 
Y
 
Y
Belgium   
Andre De Groote
 
Y
 
Y
Italy   
Andrea Lucchesini
 
Y
 
Y
Denmark   
Anne Oland
 
Y
 
Y
Hungary   
Annie Fischer (Hungarton)
 
Y
 
Y
Canada   
Anton Kuerti
 
Y
 
Y
Austria   
Artur Schnabel
 
Y
 
Y
UK   
Bernard Roberts
 
Y
 
Y
Italy   
Christian Leotta
 
Y
 
Y
USA   
Claude Frank
 
Y
 
Y
Chile   
Claudio Arrau (1960s)
 
Y
 
Y
Chile   
Claudio Arrau (1980s)
 
N
 
Y
USA   
Craig Sheppard
 
Y
 
Y
Argentina   
Daniel Barenboim (DG)
 
Y
 
Y
Argentina   
Daniel Barenboim (EMI, 1960s)
 
Y
 
Y
Argentina   
Daniel Barenboim (EMI, 2005)
 
Y
 
Y
Russia   
Daniela Varinska
 
Y
 
N
South Africa   
Daniel-Ben Pienaar
 
Y
 
Y
USA   
David Allen Wehr
 
Y
 
Y
Germany   
Dieter Zechlin
 
Y
 
Y
Italy   
Dino Ciani
 
Y
 
Y
Spain   
Eduardo del Pueyo
 
Y
 
Y
Russia   
Emil Gilels
 
N
 
Y
France   
Eric Heidsieck
 
Y
 
Y
France   
Francois Frederic Guy
 
Y
 
Y
Austria   
Friedrich Gulda (Amadeo)
 
Y
 
Y
Austria   
Friedrich Gulda (Decca)
 
Y
 
Y
Austria   
Friedrich Gulda (Orfeo)
 
Y
 
Y
USA   
Garrick Ohlsson
 
Y
 
Y
France   
Georges Pludermacher
 
Y
 
Y
Australia   
Gerard Willems
 
Y
 
Y
Germany   
Gerhard Oppitz
 
Y
 
Y
Germany   
Gotthard Kladetzky
 
Y
 
N
Japan   
Hiroaki Ooi
 
Y
 
N
Korea   
HJ Lim
 
Y
 
Y
UK   
Ian Hobson
 
Y
 
Y
Japan   
Ichiro Nodaira
 
Y
 
Y
Turkey   
Idil Biret
 
Y
 
Y
Japan   
Ikuyo Nakamichi
 
Y
 
Y
Russia   
Irina Mejoueva
 
Y
 
Y
France   
Jean Bernard Pommier
 
Y
 
Y
Luxembourg   
Jean Muller
 
Y
 
Y
France   
Jean-Efflam Bavouzet
 
Y
 
Y
Hungary   
Jeno Jando
 
Y
 
Y
UK   
John Lill
 
Y
 
Y
Ireland   
John O'Conor
 
Y
 
Y
Japan   
Kazune Shimizu (Sony)
 
Y
 
Y
Korea   
Kun-Woo Paik
 
Y
 
Y
Canada   
Louie Lortie
 
Y
 
Y
Mixed   
Malcolm Bilson, et al
 
Y
 
N
UK   
Malcolm Binns
 
Y
 
Y
Japan   
Mari Kodama
 
Y
 
Y
Russia   
Maria Grinburg
 
Y
 
Y
Germany   
Martin Rasch
 
Y
 
Y
Italy   
Maurizio Pollini
 
Y
 
Y
Switzerland   
Melodie Zhao
 
Y
 
Y
New Zealand   
Michael Houstoun (Morrison Trust)
 
Y
 
Y
New Zealand   
Michael Houstoun (Rattle)
 
Y
 
Y
Germany   
Michael Korstick
 
Y
 
Y
France   
Michael Levinas
 
Y
 
Y
USA   
Michael Steinberg
 
Y
 
N
Austria   
Paul Badura-Skoda (Gramola)
 
Y
 
Y
Austria   
Paul Badura-Skoda (JVC/Astree)
 
Y
 
Y
UK   
Paul Lewis
 
Y
 
Y
Finland   
Pavaali Jumppanen
 
Y
 
Y
Germany   
Peter Rösel
 
Y
 
Y
USA   
Peter Takacs
 
Y
 
Y
USA   
Richard Goode
 
Y
 
Y
Greece   
Rita Bouboulidi
 
Y
 
Y
Germany   
Robert Benz
 
Y
 
Y
Norway   
Robert Riefling
 
Y
 
N
Canada   
Robert Silverman
 
Y
 
Y
USA   
Robert Taub
 
Y
 
Y
Netherlands   
Ronald Brautigam
 
Y
 
Y
Austria   
Rudolf Buchbinder (RCA)
 
Y
 
Y
Austria   
Rudolf Buchbinder (Teldec)
 
Y
 
Y
Austria   
Rudolf Buchbinder (Unitel)
 
Y
 
Y
USA   
Russell Sherman
 
Y
 
Y
Argentina   
Sebastian Forster
 
Y
 
Y
Portugal   
Sequeira Costa
 
Y
 
Y
USA   
Seymour Lipkin
 
Y
 
Y
Japan   
Shoko Sugitani
 
Y
 
N
USA   
Stephen Kovacevich
 
Y
 
Y
USA   
Steven Herbert Smith
 
Y
 
Y
USA   
Steven Masi
 
Y
 
Y
Canada   
Stewart Goodyear
 
Y
 
Y
Japan   
Takahiro Sonoda (Denon)
 
Y
 
Y
Japan   
Takahiro Sonoda (Evica)
 
Y
 
Y
Russia   
Tatiana Nikolayeva
 
Y
 
Y
USA   
Timothy Ehlen
 
Y
 
Y
Russia   
Vladimir Ashkenazy
 
Y
 
Y
Germany   
Walter Gieseking (EMI)
 
N
 
N
Germany   
Walter Gieseking (Tahra)
 
N
 
Y
Germany   
Wilhelm Backhaus (mono)
 
Y
 
Y
Germany   
Wilhelm Backhaus (stereo)
 
N
 
Y
Germany   
Wilhelm Kempff (1961, King International)
 
Y
 
Y
Germany   
Wilhelm Kempff (DG, mono)
 
Y
 
Y
Germany   
Wilhelm Kempff (DG, stereo)
 
Y
 
Y
Japan   
Yaeko Yamane
 
Y
 
Y
Korea   
Younwha Lee
 
Y
 
Y
Japan   
Yu Kosuge
 
Y
 
Y
Japan   
Yukio Yokoyama
 
Y
 
Y
Japan   
Yusuke Kikuchi
 
Y
 
Y
France   
Yves Nat
 
Y
 
Y
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Todd

#3781
Cycles by country of origin of pianist:

































Country   
Count
Germany    14
USA    14
Japan    13
Austria    12
France    7
Russia    6
UK    5
Italy    5
Canada    4
Argentina    4
Korea    3
Chile    3
Hungary    3
Lebanon    2
New Zealand    2
Ireland    1
Spain    1
Australia    1
Netherlands    1
Turkey    1
Finland    1
Portugal    1
Belgium    1
South Africa    1
Denmark    1
Switzerland    1
Luxembourg    1
Mixed    1
Greece    1
Norway    1
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Todd

For Amazon Music users, the Malcolm Bilson led cycle is available for streaming.  I have no interest in buying the cycle, but I will likely stream it.

Also, Muriel Chemin's three volumes from her never finished cycle are available for streaming.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

SurprisedByBeauty

Quote from: Todd on January 01, 2018, 09:59:38 AM
Cycles by country of origin of pianist:

































Country   
Count
USA    14
Japan    13
Germany    13
Austria    12
France    7
Russia    6
UK    5
Italy    5
Canada    4
Korea    3
Argentina    3
Chile    3
Hungary    3
Lebanon    2
New Zealand    2
Ireland    1
Spain    1
Australia    1
Netherlands    1
Turkey    1
Finland    1
Portugal    1
Belgium    1
South Africa    1
Denmark    1
Switzerland    1
Luxembourg    1
Mixed    1
Greece    1
Norway    1

Awesome!


SonicMan46

Quote from: SurprisedByBeauty on January 01, 2018, 01:03:36 PM
Awesome!



Hi Todd - excellent compilations - thanks! Agree w/ the above!  Dave :)

prémont

Quote from: Todd on January 01, 2018, 09:59:22 AM
I had a hankering to put together an updated list of all available complete cycles.  By my reckoning, 110 complete cycles exist, of which I possess 102.

I only own 60 of these.

Is there hope for me anymore?
Any so-called free choice is only a choice between the available options.

Todd

The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

kishnevi

Quote from: (: premont :) on January 01, 2018, 02:12:24 PM
I only own 60 of these.

Is there hope for me anymore?
Don't feel bad. I only have 18.

amw

I have uh...... six. And ten fingers but that doesn't count.

Baron Scarpia

Quote from: Todd on January 01, 2018, 09:59:22 AM
Korea   
HJ Lim
 
Y
 
Y

Why listed as complete? She skipped two sonatas because they were published against Beethoven's wishes.

Todd

Quote from: Baron Scarpia on January 02, 2018, 10:01:48 AM
Why listed as complete? She skipped two sonatas because they were published against Beethoven's wishes.


Oversight.  Maybe I'll fix the list later.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Todd

Quote from: The One on January 02, 2018, 09:38:58 AM
Where does Robert Benz's set stand for instance?


Fourth tier for me.  YMMV.  I'll have to update my list.  There are up to 111 complete cycles, which is a nice number, however temporary.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

prémont

Quote from: The One on January 02, 2018, 10:33:17 AM
I have more than 100 :). No sane human being needs more than 10 :(

Well, I definitely feel I need more then ten - so I must consider myself insane. :-[
Any so-called free choice is only a choice between the available options.

San Antone

Quote from: (: premont :) on January 02, 2018, 11:49:06 AM
Well, I definitely feel I need more then ten - so I must consider myself insane. :-[

I don't know exactly, somewhere between 10-20 - but I keep playing the same ones: Lucchesini, Guy, Tackas, and Biss, although his is not complete yet.

Baron Scarpia

Quote from: San Antone on January 02, 2018, 12:49:48 PM
I don't know exactly, somewhere between 10-20 - but I keep playing the same ones: Lucchesini, Guy, Tackas, and Biss, although his is not complete yet.

Takacs is attractive, but the publisher has let it go out of print.

Madiel

Quote from: amw on January 01, 2018, 06:33:38 PM
I have uh...... six. And ten fingers but that doesn't count.

That's 5 more than me. Note: I don't mean a deficit of fingers.
I am now working on a discography of the works of Vagn Holmboe. Please visit and also contribute!

DaveF

Quote from: Todd on January 01, 2018, 09:59:38 AM
Cycles by country of origin of pianist:

My second thought (my first being what an amazing piece of research) was Ha! you've missed Cyprus, but then discovered that although Martino Tirimo has performed them all (in the Shire Hall in Hereford, of all places, about 20 years ago, most of which concerts I attended) he doesn't seem to have recorded a single sonata, which given the quality of his live performances is rather a shame.
"All the world is birthday cake" - George Harrison

Jo498

Quote from: ørfeo on January 02, 2018, 01:32:21 PM
That's 5 more than me. Note: I don't mean a deficit of fingers.
Which one do you have?

I have barely six: Schnabel, Arrau, Gulda, Heidsieck, Lucchesini, Gilels (incomplete, therefore barely). I also have all pieces (although not necessarily all alternative recordings) recorded by Gould and Serkin and most of the ones recorded by Richter, Edwin Fischer and Gelber. And dozens of single discs etc.
I have put any further acquisitions of that repertoire on hold but at some later time the most likely additions are the completion (or preferably a box, but I have already 5 single discs, so a box would have to be quite cheap) of the Brautigam HIP cycle (they sound very good for historical instruments and the interpretations are also good but fairly mainstream and not really as revealing or different as one could expect historically informed recordings to be, that's one reason I stopped buying more of them) or the famous "standard recommendations" Kempff and Backhaus. I have heard several discs from these last two and so far not yielded to their charms.
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

Madiel

Quote from: Jo498 on January 03, 2018, 01:08:05 AM
Which one do you have?

Kovacevich.

I do have about 3 CDs of other sonata recordings, but just the one cycle. Getting a 2nd is on my to-do list.
I am now working on a discography of the works of Vagn Holmboe. Please visit and also contribute!

Jo498

With the cheap re-issue the Kovacevich is also somewhat on my radar although not high priority as I have his older Philips recordings and about three singles from the EMI where I concurred with the often heard opinion that both playing and sound are a little too much on the aggressive side.
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal