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Re: Beethoven's Piano Sonatas
« Reply #900 on: July 01, 2011, 10:06:28 AM »
Nah, that's the MONO Backhaus that's impossible to get (last seen in Italy...)
The stereo was re-released four years ago in the US (a little before that in Germany)... and it's just magnificent.


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FWIW, there was a period of time (which has since passed) that that set was getting expensive.
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Re: Beethoven's Piano Sonatas
« Reply #901 on: July 01, 2011, 11:06:28 AM »
I think Kempff's stereo cycle on DG is most remarkable for his beautiful sparling tone  f you dramatic, emotional contrasts, or interesting ideas about phrasing and voice leading, or indeed a "vision" , then maybe you will be disappointed.

I really have rarely enjoyed Backaus's stereo cycle, to me he sounds clunky and inelegant quite often. There are some moments which I think are good enough -- Op 27/1 for example -- but not enough of them.

I think if you want a good affordable set with reasonable sound, consider Claude Frank's.

My favourite set is Arrau -- and I would recommend this without hesitation as the one to get if artistry is the main consideration. But maybe the cost is prohibitive.

But at the end of the day you have to listen to everything and decide what you like -- let youtube be your tutor and then make an investment, take a risk.
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Re: Beethoven's Piano Sonatas
« Reply #902 on: July 01, 2011, 11:49:15 AM »

My favourite set is Arrau -- and I would recommend this without hesitation as the one to get if artistry is the main consideration. But maybe the cost is prohibitive.

Arrau sounded FANTASTIC on LP but not QUITE as good on CD. It will be re-released at the end of the year or early next. At low mid-price.

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Re: Beethoven's Piano Sonatas
« Reply #903 on: July 01, 2011, 11:59:41 AM »
Arrau sounded FANTASTIC on LP but not QUITE as good on CD. It will be re-released at the end of the year or early next. At low mid-price.

Thanks for the great news! I am glad I held out so long.
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Re: Beethoven's Piano Sonatas
« Reply #904 on: July 01, 2011, 12:47:25 PM »
I suppose, that you mean PI = period instruments sets.

Only four complete sets have been made AFAIK, and they are all rather expensive or unavailable.
Thank you.  I was afraid you would say that.  Will  keep my eyes posted for Badura Skoda
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The incomplete set by Melvin Tan (Virgin) is cheap. Tans playing is perfectionistic and often earthbound.
You just reminded me:  I have a 4 CD set from Virgin in which Tan plays the concertos, the Choral Fantasy, and on the fourth CD, a selection of solo piano pieces.    I rather like the concertos, but I found the solo works to be rather dull. I probably haven't played that particular CD in about 3 or 4 years.   I don't even remember which ones are on it: I think they're a collection of variations and bagatelles. 


  Seymour Lipkin's cycle is available for $20 in CD-ROM form and also comes with all of the scores.  The music is in MP3 format, so you’d have to sacrifice some sound quality. 

Is that available through the standard vendors, or just through some specialist venue?

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Re: Beethoven's Piano Sonatas
« Reply #905 on: July 01, 2011, 02:02:37 PM »
Lipkin:
Is that available through the standard vendors, or just through some specialist venue?

Available through standard vendors alright... (Also as regular CDs [three sets], if one were to prefer that.)


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Re: Beethoven's Piano Sonatas
« Reply #906 on: July 01, 2011, 06:00:55 PM »
Available through standard vendors alright... (Also as regular CDs [three sets], if one were to prefer that.)


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MY initial enthusiasm from this afternoon has worn off.  But I'll be keeping the option in mind.  In the meantime,  I'm thinking of a quadruple play:  ordering Kempff, Gulda,  Backhaus and (I know Todd will shudder) Gould.    But not for at least a week.  My credit card bill for this month is already ridiculously high.

ETA: Gould can wait.   The Sony budget box I noticed on Amazon is missing a number of the sonatas he recorded,   so it's not really so budgety.
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Re: Beethoven's Piano Sonatas
« Reply #907 on: July 01, 2011, 08:00:05 PM »
Has anyone here come across this recording:

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Re: Beethoven's Piano Sonatas
« Reply #908 on: July 01, 2011, 10:28:37 PM »
You just reminded me:  I have a 4 CD set from Virgin in which Tan plays the concertos, the Choral Fantasy, and on the fourth CD, a selection of solo piano pieces.    I rather like the concertos, but I found the solo works to be rather dull. I probably haven't played that particular CD in about 3 or 4 years.   I don't even remember which ones are on it: I think they're a collection of variations and bagatelles. 

Yes, Tan seems also to me more inspired in the concertos.

One important period pianist I forgot in the list for you, because his set even is incomplete so far, is Paul Komen (Globe), whom I mentioned earlier in this thread. His interpretatioms are conceived in a classical spirit, and are expressive without idiosyncrasies. His recordings are not just cheap but well worth the cost. Nobody knows if he is going to complete the set.

Link:

http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/SESSIONID/22d46a7725f6c4527cdde565d1763a41/classic/search?rubric=classic&tracks=paul%20komen&pd_orderby=score&advancedsearch=1
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Re: Beethoven's Piano Sonatas
« Reply #909 on: July 02, 2011, 03:55:02 AM »
 Now taking in Piano Sonata No. 4, Op. 7 (The Grand Sonata and renamed “Verliebte”).
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Re: Beethoven's Piano Sonatas
« Reply #910 on: July 02, 2011, 04:49:14 AM »
... I'm thinking of a quadruple play:  ordering Kempff, Gulda,  Backhaus and (I know Todd will shudder) Gould.    But not for at least a week.  My credit card bill for this month is already ridiculously high.

Internet is a wonderful tool to provide some spiritual relief. I am not alone; other people do the same crazy things.

What a gang of lunatics we have gathered here!  ;D :P :-*

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Re: Beethoven's Piano Sonatas
« Reply #911 on: July 02, 2011, 04:57:50 AM »
Internet is a wonderful tool to provide some spiritual relief. I am not alone; other people do the same crazy things.

What a gang of lunatics we have gathered here!  ;D :P :-*

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Re: Beethoven's Piano Sonatas
« Reply #912 on: July 02, 2011, 05:06:14 AM »
"The things you own, end up owning you. "

- Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club

Unfortunately I have not purchased the Palahniuk novel.  :D

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Re: Beethoven's Piano Sonatas
« Reply #913 on: July 02, 2011, 05:06:55 AM »
Unfortunately I have not purchased the Palahniuk novel.  :D

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Re: Beethoven's Piano Sonatas
« Reply #914 on: July 02, 2011, 05:14:50 AM »
;D

Although perhaps the correct reply should be: Fortunately I have not purchased the Pahlianuk novel. I mean in order to be coherent with the author. ;D

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Re: Beethoven's Piano Sonatas
« Reply #915 on: July 02, 2011, 05:26:54 AM »
Although perhaps the correct reply should be: Fortunately I have not purchased the Pahlianuk novel. I mean in order to be coherent with the author. ;D

Of course. FWIW, the movie is better than the book.
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Re: Beethoven's Piano Sonatas
« Reply #916 on: July 02, 2011, 05:40:36 AM »
Of course. FWIW, the movie is better than the book.

You have a well-earned movie authority (based on excellent recommendations), so I will forget my natural aversion to Brad Pitt and I will watch this movie.  :)

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Re: Beethoven's Piano Sonatas
« Reply #917 on: July 02, 2011, 06:19:42 AM »
Went ahead and pulled the trigger on this 'un:


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Re: Beethoven's Piano Sonatas
« Reply #918 on: July 02, 2011, 06:21:16 AM »
Congrats on scoring that classic set, k a rl:)
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Re: Beethoven's Piano Sonatas
« Reply #919 on: July 02, 2011, 06:23:14 AM »
Thanks, George!  Can hardly wait.  For the first time I can remember, I am in the mood to listen to the lot, straight through.