Beethoven's Piano Sonatas

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xochitl

Quote from: George on September 26, 2012, 10:15:54 AM
Both Annie Fischer and Wilhelm Backhaus (the stereo set, at least) recorded their Beethoven sonata sets on a Bosendorfer.
huh...well that makes sense

DavidRoss

Quote from: xochitl on September 26, 2012, 04:52:32 PM
huh...well that makes sense
Why is that, if you don't mind my asking?
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xochitl

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Quote from: DavidRoss on September 26, 2012, 04:59:31 PM
Why is that, if you don't mind my asking?
i love the sound they make, and fischer's is my fave cycle probably

theres something about the way beethoven sounds on steinways that just rubs me the wrong way.  too smooth/pretty/[evenly-voiced?].  the bass doesnt rip and rattle, the middle all blends in, and the highs are too crystalline.  actually, now that i think about it:  i just dont like the sound of the steinway, unless it's post-romantic music

George

Quote from: xochitl on September 26, 2012, 06:52:41 PM
i love the sound they make, and fischer's is my fave cycle probably

theres something about the way beethoven sounds on steinways that just rubs me the wrong way.  too smooth/pretty/[evenly-voiced?].  the bass doesnt rip and rattle, the middle all blends in, and the highs are too crystalline.  actually, now that i think about it:  i just dont like the sound of the steinway, unless it's post-romantic music

I just read on Wiki that Richter has recorded using a Bosendorfer. His RCA Salzburg WTC was recorded on one.
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Opus106

I think Schiff does (did) too.
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Todd

Quote from: Opus106 on September 26, 2012, 09:22:32 PMI think Schiff does (did) too.


He alternated between Bosendorfers and Steinways, depending on the work. 

A few other pianists used Bosendorfers.  Paul Badura Skoda used one for his Gramola cycle.  Robert Silverman used a special recording/playback one for his cycle.  I'm thinking one or two others may have, but I can't recall off the top of my head.
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Opus106

Quote from: Todd on September 27, 2012, 06:02:09 AM
He alternated between Bosendorfers and Steinways, depending on the work. 

Oh, that's interesting. I didn't know that.
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Mandryka

Takacs uses one doesn't he? I don't have the booklet but it sounds like one.
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Todd

Quote from: Mandryka on September 27, 2012, 07:55:50 AMTakacs uses one doesn't he? I don't have the booklet but it sounds like one.



Yes, he does.  I'm still thinking there may be one or two more others who did, though I can't recall all of the intruments used in all the recordings I've heard. 

I do recall distinctly that Pludermacher uses a modified Steinway with a fourth pedal, and Gerard Willems uses a Stuart & Sons, for those who want different instruments.
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Brian

Quote from: Todd on September 27, 2012, 08:05:39 AMfor those who want different instruments.
What, you're not gonna mention HJ Lim's Yamaha? ;)

Arguably the worst instrument ever used in a cycle.

Todd

Quote from: Brian on September 27, 2012, 08:33:35 AMArguably the worst instrument ever used in a cycle.



I don't blame the Yamaha.
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Brian

Quote from: Todd on September 27, 2012, 08:45:53 AM
I don't blame the Yamaha.
Feel free to blame the Yamaha (partially). She hand-picked it.

George

Quote from: Brian on September 27, 2012, 08:33:35 AM
What, you're not gonna mention HJ Lim's Yamaha? ;)

Arguably the worst instrument ever used in a cycle.

That would be her fingers.

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PaulSC

I believe Arthur Schnabel recorded the sonatas on a Bechstein, and I assume Angela Hewitt's Beethoven discs (is she aiming for a complete cycle?) are played on her usual Fazioli.
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DavidRoss

Yamaha owns Bösendorfer. They also make pretty good motorcycles.

Quote from: PaulSC on September 27, 2012, 10:29:21 AM
I assume Angela Hewitt's Beethoven discs (is she aiming for a complete cycle?) are played on her usual Fazioli.
???
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Opus106

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kishnevi

Quote from: Opus106 on September 27, 2012, 10:50:20 AM
I'm afraid it's time to splurge... again. :(

http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/s/Angela%2BHewitt%2BBeethoven


That listing doesn't include the 2 CDs of cello sonatas recorded with Daniel Muller-Schott (the Presto query comes up with two false positives as well as their recording of the Bach viola da gamba sonatas

http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/search.php?searchString=Hewitt+Cello+Sonatas

As to the main entry--I say that Hewitt's Beethoven is like her Schumann--worth hearing--but not sure if it's actually worth purchasing.

DavidRoss

Quote from: Opus106 on September 27, 2012, 10:50:20 AM
I'm afraid it's time to splurge... again. :(

http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/s/Angela%2BHewitt%2BBeethoven
Oh, yes, I know she's recording Beethoven, and doing a pretty good job of it, too. I just didn't know that she usually records on a Fazoli--thought that was a unique situation for her second WTC on record.
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Opus106

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on September 27, 2012, 10:59:22 AM

That listing doesn't include the 2 CDs of cello sonatas recorded with Daniel Muller-Schott (the Presto query comes up with two false positives as well as their recording of the Bach viola da gamba sonatas

http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/search.php?searchString=Hewitt+Cello+Sonatas

Well, this being a thread about Beethoven's piano sonatas, I didn't see the relevance. In any case, here they are: http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/search.php?searchString=hewitt+schott+beethoven
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Opus106

Quote from: DavidRoss on September 27, 2012, 11:05:09 AM
Oh, yes, I know she's recording Beethoven, and doing a pretty good job of it, too. I just didn't know that she usually records on a Fazoli--thought that was a unique situation for her second WTC on record.

Ah. She describes how this model/make helps in her interpretation (at least in Vol.1) in the notes.
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Navneeth