Gramophone's British Artists

[mc ukrneal]

No, nothing more is needed when discussing a magazine.  Beyond that, you are the one attributing a negative connotation to the word bias.  For me it is a neutral word in this context.  I cannot recall reading any non-scientific publication that is free of bias, and even some purportedly scientific publications are overtly biased (eg, Scientific American).  I simply recognize the bias and factor that in when reading.

Really? If I call you biased, you wouldn't be even a little irritated? Personally, I think it would be a pretty serious insult.

Yes - bias is generally negative. I would agree with that. It is something we should strive to eliminate in our lives.

[mc ukrneal]

Grab the 2010 Penguin guide, written by mostly the same guys. Search out any obscure British composer. You will find him. Search out even well known baroque composers or lesser known non-Brits.

I have an old guide somewhere. Wouldn't you expect an obscure British composure to be performed by British groups just as you would expect obscure Finnish groups to be played by Finnish groups (or insert various nationalities)? We are talking about systematic bias.

[Ken B]

I have an old guide somewhere. Wouldn't you expect an obscure British composure to be performed by British groups just as you would expect obscure Finnish groups to be played by Finnish groups (or insert various nationalities)? We are talking about systematic bias.

You have not performed the experiment. You will find every Brit you can think of. You will not find even well known composers from other lands. The Brit bias is very strong.

[Todd]

Really? If I call you biased, you wouldn't be even a little irritated?

Not really.  I acknowledge I have my biases.  I'm not sure how one would eliminate all biases, or if that would even be close to a good thing.

And somehow I doubt the people who run Gramophone would bristle much at being accused of having a pro-British bias.

[springrite]

I am biased. Everyone here is biased, except for James.

[mc ukrneal]

You have not performed the experiment. You will find every Brit you can think of. You will not find even well known composers from other lands. The Brit bias is very strong.

Ah, you are talking now of the composers, not the performers. The 2006 edition has a 2007 supplement. I would have to take them together I think to come up with a view. But even here, I have not really observed what you are focusing on.

[Ken B]

Ah, you are talking now of the composers, not the performers. The 2006 edition has a 2007 supplement. I would have to take them together I think to come up with a view. But even here, I have not really observed what you are focusing on.

As I recall even major composers like Campra were omitted from the 2010 guide.

[Brian]

It is of limited value, but still at least your conclusion would be based on some sort of data that could be examined by all. Oddly, those are not the publishers I would have expected them to embrace, although perhaps at the time that was where the money was.

This was last year; EMI and Decca were "the English labels" who were also big advertisers and sponsors.

[G. String]

After all, compared to the OP, I provided equally valid data, but I would not make any real claim with that data

Please do not keep mentioning my name while taking things out of their contexts.

Maybe some can simply respond to my "Can 80% of Top 10 Bach recordings really be represented by British artists?" question?

[mc ukrneal]

Please do not keep mentioning my name while taking things out of their contexts.

I took nothing out of context.  After all you did write,

What do you think about this kind of commercially national bias?

[G. String]

Okay. I would suggest you to re-think but it doesn't seem productive. The key is/was '...this kind of...'...anyway.

[DavidW]

Okay. I would suggest you to re-think but it doesn't seem productive. The key is/was '...this kind of...'...anyway.

We are all on topic.  Please chill out.

[G. String]

Please chill out.

I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell!!!