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Re: Box Blather
« Reply #1240 on: August 10, 2022, 10:17:46 PM »
The older Previn box? or single issues had some small cuts in "Sleeping Beauty" to fit it on two discs, I think. (I only have one of these, in a red or purplish cardboard box.) Supposedly this was fixed in the most recent issues that might have an additional disc or use a bit of the space left on the Nutcracker discs.
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Re: Box Blather
« Reply #1241 on: August 11, 2022, 04:57:13 AM »
The older Previn box? or single issues had some small cuts in "Sleeping Beauty" to fit it on two discs, I think. (I only have one of these, in a red or purplish cardboard box.) Supposedly this was fixed in the most recent issues that might have an additional disc or use a bit of the space left on the Nutcracker discs.

Correct, the cuts have been restored, including in the Ballets Russes box.

I understand it’s only a couple of numbers that aren’t likely to be anyone’s highlights, but still it’s nice to know they’ve considered the issue.
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Re: Box Blather
« Reply #1242 on: August 11, 2022, 01:42:02 PM »
Thanks for the appreciation. I'm always pleasantly surprised when someone takes me seriously. You have described my view pretty well. I've noticed I get less value from yet another technically flawless recording of yet another immaculately executed performance of a familiar work. The old orchestras had performance styles which could be uniquely colorful and engaging, if you can tolerate the audio limitations. I've tried to train myself to imagine what actual sound would be required to produce what I am hearing through those old microphones recorders.

One of the things I admire is the ability of the brass sections of the French Orchestra to create an atmosphere of excitement without playing too loudly, maybe a combination of their instruments and performance style. Markevitch/Lamoreaux is good for this. And a real French French horn section is something to be treasured! :)

Some of the more interesting stuff is from the Mono years, not long after the orchestras had reconstituted themselves after the war. That Cluytens set has a remarkable recording of Ravel's Pavane pour une infante défunte from 1950 (very prominent horn vibrato) and a barn burning Schumann 4 from the same year (Paris Conservatory and Orchestre National de la Radiodiffusion Francaise, respectively).

BTW, is the Tommasini/Scarlatti selection the old Desormiere recording on Decca?



How I wish Eloquence would come out with a complete Decca/Paris Conservatory box.

I find your posts very helpful as well, on other boards you can like a post which shows some appreciation or agreement.

I agree with you on what is special about some of these orchestras, I find it so with some of the conductors of that era as well. I was making a comment on another board that I'd probably see the BSO more if we had Yannick Nézet-Séguin, but thinking about it more is he really that different from Nelsons? It's all that sort of corporate safeness across the board with the odd exceptional or unique performance here and there.

I streamed the Richard Bonynge box to see if I wanted to buy the Decca box when it was available. I'm not sure if I'll ever get onboard with most ballets, in general they feel overly long to me with some vague narration we're supposed to piece together in our head; rarely any repeated themes, melodies or narratives so it just sounds like a huge ADHD fest. I think the list of ballets I like would be even smaller than the number of operas I like. From the point of view of listening to these with complete undivided attention and not as background music, I do quite like when they're cut down as suites or excerpts, ie two acts from Giselle is hell of a lot more palatable for undivided listening then the entire ballet.
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Re: Box Blather
« Reply #1243 on: August 18, 2022, 10:19:59 AM »
For those still unaware who may be interested, the Netherlands Wind Ensemble complete recordings on Philips are available as a set.

Here's a bit of Krommer:

https://youtu.be/kME48Hhk0qo
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