Franz Schubert

[Mandryka]

https://static.qobuz.com/goodies/97/000137979.pdf

Daniel Ben Pienaar's essay on Schubert - I just thought it was interesting, worth reading.

[Leo K.]

https://static.qobuz.com/goodies/97/000137979.pdf

Daniel Ben Pienaar's essay on Schubert - I just thought it was interesting, worth reading.

I enjoyed reading this, thanks!

[calyptorhynchus]

I've just been listening to some of the symphonies from Abbado's late 1980s set. Some of the details sound different from other recordings of these works. Did Abbado use a new edition or something?

[lordlance]

Which are some great recordings of the Ninth that omit all repeats? Feels like that the Ninth is the perfect example of work that needs no repeats. 

[Mandryka]

Which are some great recordings of the Ninth that omit all repeats? Feels like that the Ninth is the perfect example of work that needs no repeats.

Bruno Maderna

[DaveF]

Which are some great recordings of the Ninth that omit all repeats? Feels like that the Ninth is the perfect example of work that needs no repeats.

The Great C major with no repetition would last about 5 minutes

Seriously (and it is one of my favourite symphonies) you probably can't literally have no repeats, since everybody takes the Scherzo/Trio ones, but I would imagine most older recordings would not take the exposition repeats in first movement and finale.  Krips with the LSO was the classic one I grew up with.  If you want modern sound and a bit of HIP, I think Bruno Weil with The Classical Band is repeat-free, although I'm not sure it qualifies as a great one.

[Jo498]

Szell/CBSony has the scherzo at 7 min instead of 11-15 min, so he must skip most of the repeats or were they edited to fit with the b minor on one CD?

Weil and Gielen skip the repeats in 1 and 4 but do them in the scherzo with the odd consequence that this becomes the longest movement as they are also rather fleet in the Andante.

Not sure about Leibowitz and this might be hard to find but he is very fast and probably skips most repeats, so together with Szell (who is slowish in the intro and average in the Andante) this might be another "short" one. But the Maderna above might be better than Leibowitz with similar approach, very fast both in the intro and the rest of the first movement.

[Brian]

I haven't listened to Charles Munch often enough to know if all of them are omitted, but it's about 44 minutes in total and extremely exciting.

[Jo498]

Munch is one of my favorites (probably the stereo pre-digital favorite), or was when I pondered and compared a few years ago. Like Szell the Scherzo is below 8 min, so must skip most/all repeats.
I think Gurn recommended Sinopoli/Dresden (DG) in this forum, probably in another thread, and I liked this also quite a bit for a more modern recording; he also skips most repeats but, like most stereo recordings must do some in the scherzo as it's about 11 min.

I don't know which recording did most or all repeats for the first time. (NOT Giulini/Chicago about which this was claimed but it doesn't and I don't like it much anyway.)

It's difficult to tell from the playing time of the first movement because tempi, esp. in the intro differ so much that a slowish recording without repeat can take as long (15 min) as a fast one with repeat. But >15 min is probably with repeat and <13 without.
The scherzo with all repeats is 14-16 min, w/o 7-8 but many have a compromise leading to 10-12 min playing time.
The finale with repeat is around 14-16, w/o around 10-12 min.

I have too many recordings of this symphony I am not even that fond of but I don't seem to be able to decide which ones to get rid of.
A few weeks ago I compared my 2 HIP recording, Mackerras (I think this was the first on old instruments and it takes all repeats) and Weil and although I was biased against Mackerras I liked Weil less but Weil is more interesting insofar that it's extremely fast and light in most movements whereas Mackerras is fairly traditional and moderate, except a bit faster in the intro (although some smarter conductors realized that this should not be too slow already in the 1940s and the Maderna linked above is very fast as well)

Besides Mackerras I have 2 more among 15 recordings that do all repeats: Davis/Dresden and Harnoncourt/Concertgebouw.

[Mandryka]

Just listened to a recording of Sanderling playing the 9th in 1992 with the Minnesota Orchestra. What a wonderful symphony it is!