Jazz piano poll

Started by Brian, April 29, 2014, 08:09:38 PM

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You may choose TWO.

Art Tatum
9 (23.1%)
Duke Ellington
4 (10.3%)
Oscar Peterson
3 (7.7%)
Erroll Garner
2 (5.1%)
Bill Evans
10 (25.6%)
Dave Brubeck
3 (7.7%)
Herbie Hancock
3 (7.7%)
Keith Jarrett
3 (7.7%)
Thelonious Monk
16 (41%)
Someone else!
6 (15.4%)

Total Members Voted: 39

torut

Quote from: XB-70 Valkyrie on May 02, 2014, 12:00:46 PM
And I can't believe I'm the only one here who has mentioned Horace Tapscott (now dead, RIP). His extended solo improvisations remind me of Keith Jarrett, but I actually find them more compelling, and they seem to have a more potent emotional punch.
I am interested in Tapscott. I have not heard any of his music. Can you recommend one album?

escher

my favorites are:
1. Andrew Hill
2. Herbie Nichols (still a neglected genius it seems)
3. Thelonious Monk
4. Mary Lou Williams
5. Denny Zeitlin - I respect a lot Bill Evans, but I like Zeitlin even more: more extroverted than Evans, harmonically daring and he's always experimenting. A very underrated player.

And by the way it's impossible a poll like that where there's Brubeck and not names like those I've mentioned or Bud Powell, Tristano, McCoy Tyner, Twardzik, Umberto Cesari, Bernard Peiffer, Phineas Newborn, Jaki Byard, Jelly Roll Morton, Earl Hines, Teddy Wilson, Chick Corea, Horace Silver, Dave McKenna...

XB-70 Valkyrie

#22
Quote from: torut on May 02, 2014, 04:16:42 PM
I am interested in Tapscott. I have not heard any of his music. Can you recommend one album?

I have only the LPs--The Tapscott Sessions on the Nimbus label. I have and recommend Vols. 1, 2, 3, 5 (each a separate LP). From what I remember, there were seven volumes, but now on Amazon.de I see that these are available as MP3 downloads. I think they were never issued on CD. In any case, my favorite piece is Struggle X, an Afro-American Dream (this piece is 20-30 minuten in length). Haunted was another good one.
If you really dislike Bach you keep quiet about it! - Andras Schiff

torut

Quote from: XB-70 Valkyrie on May 04, 2014, 10:26:56 PM
I have only the LPs--The Tapscott Sessions on the Nimbus label. I have and recommend Vols. 1, 2, 3, 5 (each a separate LP). From what I remember, there were seven volumes, but now on Amazon.de I see that these are available as MP3 downloads. I think they were never issued on CD. In any case, my favorite piece is Struggle X, an Afro-American Dream (this piece is 20-30 minuten in length). Haunted was another good one.
Thank you. At amazon.com (and also amazon.de), only vol. 8-11 of The Tapscott Sessions are available. It seems vol. 1-7 were released on LP, and vol. 8-11 were released on CD (now OOP) & mp3. I will try some of them. Unfortunately, Struggle X, an Afro-American Dream or Haunted does not seem available.

Archaic Torso of Apollo

Quote from: escher on May 03, 2014, 05:50:25 AM

5. Denny Zeitlin - I respect a lot Bill Evans, but I like Zeitlin even more: more extroverted than Evans, harmonically daring and he's always experimenting. A very underrated player.

My jazz-obsessed friend is a big fan of Zeitlin, and goes to see him whenever he's in town. Any recordings you want to recommend?
formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

escher

#25
Quote from: Velimir on May 05, 2014, 01:46:36 PM
My jazz-obsessed friend is a big fan of Zeitlin, and goes to see him whenever he's in town. Any recordings you want to recommend?

Sure! The Columbia studio trio sessions are a perfect introduction to his work. Basically three of his first albums, recorded between 1964 (the first two) and 1967.




I don't know why but to me the least interesting track is the first one, called "Repeat", even if someone said that was an example of jazz-minimalism.
Anyway in my opinion it's difficult to find music recorded in the sixties that sounds so fresh even today.

Mookalafalas

Quote from: Dax on May 02, 2014, 03:14:30 PM
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Lennie Tristano: amongst my top five, anyway.

  I just recently started listening to his stuff--the best is stunning and completely original.
It's all good...

torut

I listened to The Tapscott Sessions Vol. 8. I expected an aggressive performance for Waldron's Fire Waltz, but Tapscott's playing was rather contemplative. Very nice. Weston's Little Niles and Tapscott's As A Child are quite beautiful. Sometimes I felt similarities to Mal Waldron, not only because his composition was played, but I am not sure. It was very satisfying. Thank you again, XB-70 Valkyrie.

Purusha

Quote from: Dax on May 02, 2014, 03:14:30 PM
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Lennie Tristano: amongst my top five, anyway.

Tristano is one of my favorites as well.

I'd probably place Bud Powell as number one, if only his recordings had been more consistent.

Quote from: Brian on April 30, 2014, 07:45:58 AMArt Tatum is spellbinding at his best, but at his worst, you can hear the same 3-4 ornamentative mannerisms being repeated constantly.

I take issue with this criticism. I never heard any "worst" from Tatum, at least on his solo recordings. His virtuoso ornamentation does get boring after a while, but that stuff is only at the surface of what he is actually doing (by definition, really) and in a certain sense its just his way of counterbalancing his extremely complex and brainy harmonic explorations. You are simply not supposed to pay attention to his ornamentation and after a while you can just tune that stuff out.

Karl Henning

Had to vote Tatum and Monk.  Had to.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

San Antone

Quote from: karlhenning on June 11, 2015, 08:18:25 AM
Had to vote Tatum and Monk.  Had to.

Looks like I voted "Someone else" - but looking at the list, and although Monk is hard to pass up - I could choose Herbie Hancock and Bill Evans.

escher

Quote from: Purusha on June 11, 2015, 07:15:29 AM
Tristano is one of my favorites as well.

I'd probably place Bud Powell as number one, if only his recordings had been more consistent.

I take issue with this criticism. I never heard any "worst" from Tatum, at least on his solo recordings. His virtuoso ornamentation does get boring after a while, but that stuff is only at the surface of what he is actually doing (by definition, really) and in a certain sense its just his way of counterbalancing his extremely complex and brainy harmonic explorations. You are simply not supposed to pay attention to his ornamentation and after a while you can just tune that stuff out.

yes, I'd probably appreciate Tatum more if someone would have cut his right hand!
Seriously, I really admire his sense of harmony but those mannerisms are annoying. That's why I like to hear more the (sadly few) recordings of his friend Clarence Profit who had a similar harmonic deepness but without those clichès.

James

For me .. Joe Zawinul, Jan Hammer and Chick Corea. Electric, acoustic, improvising, composing, imagination, diversity .. they have it all.
Action is the only truth

Henk

Bad poll. Not any younger and living pianist in the list. Shame on you, Brian. Hancock might be in his 60s already.

North Star

Quote from: Henk on June 11, 2015, 10:14:41 PM
Bad poll. Not any younger and living pianist in the list. Shame on you, Brian. Hancock might be in his 60s already.
Considering that Takin' Off is from 1962, it would be rather amazing if he was still in his 60s.  ::) He was born in 1942.

And you can always start your own poll/topic about younger pianists, Henk.
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king ubu

guess from the ones that are/should be in the list:

Art Tatum
Bud Powell

followed by Monk and Cecil Taylor


other favorites, in roughly chronological order:

Jelly Roll Morton
Willie "The Lion" Smith
Duke Ellington
Count Basie
James P. Johnson
Teddy Wilson
Al Haig
Duke Jordan
John Lewis
Dodo Marmarosa
Tadd Dameron
Lennie Tristano
Ahmad Jamal
Herbie Nichols
Elmo Hope
Horace Silver
Red Garland
Wynton Kelly
Richard Wyands
Horace Parlan
Mal Waldron
Eddie Costa
Hamptown Hawes
Carl Perkins
Sonny Clark
Martial Solal
Randy Weston
Jaki Byard
Steve Kuhn
Don Friedman
Herbie Hancock
McCoy Tyner
Andrew Hill
Paul Bley
Horace Tapscott
Irène Schweizer
Colin Vallon
Alexander Hawkins
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Florestan

"Great music is that which penetrates the ear with facility and leaves the memory with difficulty. Magical music never leaves the memory." — Thomas Beecham

king ubu

#37
Not really familiar with Raducanu, but Ianci Körössy need be added to my list - hell of an amazing player!

Other Europeansof interest:

René Urtreger
Giorgio Gaslini
Bernard Peiffer
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Fick mich, lieber Peter!
Und do die roten röslein stan:
Fick mich, lieber Peter!
Fick mich mehr, du hast dein ehr.
Kannstu nit, ich wills dich lern.
Fick mich, lieber Peter!

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San Antone

Speaking of European pianists: Bobo Stenson and Enrico Pieranunzi

Stenson recorded mostly for ECM and I've always thought of as the Euro Keith Jarrett, but in many ways better.  Pieranunzi will recall Bill Evans, in fact his trio often includes Marc Johnson Evan's last bassist and Joey Baron - an excellent rhythm section.

https://www.youtube.com/v/3YgwTxRjk4g

https://www.youtube.com/v/3XUOwT1DgvU

Karl Henning

He would not displace either of my two choices, but it was Marcus Roberts who got me to re-attune my ears to the Rhapsody in Blue

http://www.youtube.com/v/Xrs135MAvJc
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot