If you had the power to raise the dead...

Started by ZauberdrachenNr.7, May 30, 2015, 01:26:09 PM

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Sammy

Quote from: Jo498 on May 31, 2015, 11:04:26 PM
But Bach did not write no operas because he died too young! He was apparently not interested in the genre and had so many other duties. Whatever the reasons, I do not think a Bach living 10 years longer in good health would have composed an opera.

You way of looking at this is contrary to the OP.  What's realistic doesn't count here; we are raising the dead!

prémont

Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

Christo

Quote from: Brian on May 31, 2015, 10:19:45 AMIf Gershwin had lived more of the full span of the American century, he could have had an unimaginable impact on our culture...

Absolutely.
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Ken B

I for one wish Debussy hadn't died before he wrote La Mer.


>:D :laugh:

ZauberdrachenNr.7

Quote from: Ken B on June 01, 2015, 02:59:25 PM
I for one wish Debussy hadn't died before he wrote La Mer.
>:D :laugh:

Buried at sea?  OMG, just when you thought it couldn't get any worse... :laugh:

DaveF

Quote from: Jo498 on June 01, 2015, 06:01:29 AM
Never heard of the Commotio,
Apparently on the title-page of Commotio, Nielsen wrote "no.1" and then erased or scored it out, although it remains visible.  You can probably see it in the complete Nielsen edition at Det Kongelige Bibliotek's website - I can't confirm as I'm working on an ancient laptop while my PC's Blue Screen of Death is fixed.

Quote from: Jo498 on June 01, 2015, 06:01:29 AM
but the other wind concerti really are a  great loss (especially because there are not many good concerti for bassoon or horn, after Mozart).
Nor oboe, indeed.
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Madiel

I can think of at least a couple of other cases of composers labelling something "no.1" only to never write "no.2". I wouldn't put much store in it as evidence that was actually a 2nd piece in progress.
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PerfectWagnerite

Quote from: orfeo on June 02, 2015, 05:51:25 AM
I can think of at least a couple of other cases of composers labelling something "no.1" only to never write "no.2". I wouldn't put much store in it as evidence that was actually a 2nd piece in progress.

As in History of the World - Part 1 ?

starrynight

Quote from: Jo498 on June 01, 2015, 01:05:31 AM
You have a point. Not sure about Beethoven influencing an older Mozart but even the real Mozart dead in 1791 undoubtedly was a towering figure for Beethoven and he did not stop Beethoven becoming Beethoven.

But I think Mozart could and probably would have become even more important for German language opera had he lived longer, certainly for Weber and probably Schubert as well.

Mozart would have done more choral music and Beethoven probably the same amount or more of chamber music.  Mozart in the 1790s could have done more symphonies though, Haydn had recommended that he go and replace him in London I think.  I'm not sure if Mozart would have travelled but he would have probably had more symphony commissions anyway.