May The Fourth Be With You ~ Happy Star Wars Day 2014!!!

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Karl Henning

#60
May 04, 2015, 08:55:05 AM
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on April 18, 2015, 11:06:01 AM
Based on the trailer for Star Wars TFA, I'm excited. With the use of practical effects and what looks like better acting than episodes 1-3, this could be a winner.

Any acting is better acting than episodes 1-3. There! I said it!  8)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
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Rinaldo

#61
May 04, 2015, 09:05:30 AM
Quote from: MN Dave on May 04, 2015, 08:49:34 AMHas George Lucas ever given Edgar Rice Burroughs credit, having stolen all his ideas from the Barsoom novels?

Stolen? All? Mostly, he nicked a bunch of names like Bantha, Sith or Jedi, which might come from 'Jeddak'. Plus, he got to Burroughs through Flash Gordon.

"In a quote in December 1977 talking about the first Star Wars, George Lucas said how he wanted to do Flash Gordon but couldn't get the rights so he started tracing what inspired Raymond and discovered that it was Burroughs and John Carter and then found Gullivar of Mars which he felt was the first story in this genre." (source)

As for ideas, Lucas owes more to (and acknowledges the influence of) Joseph Campbell.
"The truly novel things will be invented by the young ones, not by me. But this doesn't worry me at all."
~ Grażyna Bacewicz

Jubal Slate

#62
May 04, 2015, 09:10:31 AM
Quote from: Rinaldo on May 04, 2015, 09:05:30 AM
Stolen? All? Mostly, he nicked a bunch of names like Bantha, Sith or Jedi, which might come from 'Jeddak'. Plus, he got to Burroughs through Flash Gordon.

"In a quote in December 1977 talking about the first Star Wars, George Lucas said how he wanted to do Flash Gordon but couldn't get the rights so he started tracing what inspired Raymond and discovered that it was Burroughs and John Carter and then found Gullivar of Mars which he felt was the first story in this genre." (source)

As for ideas, Lucas owes more to (and acknowledges the influence of) Joseph Campbell.

Thanks!

Jaakko Keskinen

#63
July 16, 2015, 07:11:17 AM
Quote from: vandermolen on April 18, 2015, 12:06:09 PM
I trust that you've all noticed the thematic similarity between the March from Prokofiev's 'The Love of Three Oranges' and 'The March of the Ewoks' from 'Star Wars: Return of the Jedi' by John Williams. 8)

There is a considerable similarity also with funeral march of Chopin's piano sonata 2 and Williams's Imperial march.
"Javert, though frightful, had nothing ignoble about him. Probity, sincerity, candor, conviction, the sense of duty, are things which may become hideous when wrongly directed; but which, even when hideous, remain grand."

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Rinaldo

#64
July 16, 2015, 07:42:17 AM
I have a good feeling about this..

https://www.youtube.com/v/CTNJ51ghzdY
"The truly novel things will be invented by the young ones, not by me. But this doesn't worry me at all."
~ Grażyna Bacewicz

Mirror Image

#65
July 16, 2015, 08:17:26 PM
Quote from: Rinaldo on July 16, 2015, 07:42:17 AM
I have a good feeling about this..

https://www.youtube.com/v/CTNJ51ghzdY

+1 Looks like Abrams has gone back to the an older way of doing things with the costumes, make-up, props, etc. A big thumbs up for this alone. 8)

Jaakko Keskinen

#66
August 18, 2015, 06:59:42 AM
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on May 04, 2014, 01:35:29 PM
(very similar to why I never like James Cameron films)

I like some Cameron movies but the biggest problems with Cameron is that a) the kid characters in his movies are often written as unendurably obnoxious b) His villains often lack depth and seem cardboard cutouts. In some cases he tries to add some depth but deletes ultimately those scenes from the movie (as in Titanic, except for one, rather short scene). When Lucas is in charge of script-writing and directing, he usually makes the same mistakes as Cameron.
"Javert, though frightful, had nothing ignoble about him. Probity, sincerity, candor, conviction, the sense of duty, are things which may become hideous when wrongly directed; but which, even when hideous, remain grand."

- Victor Hugo

Jaakko Keskinen

#67
August 18, 2015, 07:03:15 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on May 05, 2014, 11:25:32 AM
Sure, Disney are all about the money.

Pretty much every single corporation in existence is all about the money.
"Javert, though frightful, had nothing ignoble about him. Probity, sincerity, candor, conviction, the sense of duty, are things which may become hideous when wrongly directed; but which, even when hideous, remain grand."

- Victor Hugo

Mirror Image

#68
August 18, 2015, 07:04:16 AM
Quote from: Alberich on August 18, 2015, 06:59:42 AM
I like some Cameron movies but the biggest problems with Cameron is that a) the kid characters in his movies are often written as unendurably obnoxious b) His villains often lack depth and seem cardboard cutouts. In some cases he tries to add some depth but deletes ultimately those scenes from the movie (as in Titanic, except for one, rather short scene). When Lucas is in charge of script-writing and directing, he usually makes the same mistakes as Cameron.

The only Cameron films I like are The Terminator and T2: Judgement Day. I thought these were very good sci-fi films.

Jaakko Keskinen

#69
August 18, 2015, 07:08:58 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on August 18, 2015, 07:04:16 AM
The only Cameron films I like are The Terminator and T2: Judgement Day. I thought these were very good sci-fi films.

I love the first Terminator. My feelings about second one are more mixed, leaning towards positive. Scrap the annoying kid appeal character and I would call it a masterpiece.
"Javert, though frightful, had nothing ignoble about him. Probity, sincerity, candor, conviction, the sense of duty, are things which may become hideous when wrongly directed; but which, even when hideous, remain grand."

- Victor Hugo

Mirror Image

#70
August 18, 2015, 07:13:08 AM
Quote from: Alberich on August 18, 2015, 07:08:58 AMI love the first Terminator. My feelings about second one are more mixed, leaning towards positive. Scrap the annoying kid appeal character and I would call it a masterpiece.

I'm inclined to agree with you about T2. I was pretty annoyed with the John Connor character, too. Edward Furlong really is a damn brat in this film.

Rinaldo

#71
August 18, 2015, 02:02:07 PM
Quote from: Alberich on August 18, 2015, 07:08:58 AM
I love the first Terminator. My feelings about second one are more mixed, leaning towards positive. Scrap the annoying kid appeal character and I would call it a masterpiece.

I'm not a Cameron fan but Judgement Day is a masterpiece of action cinema. I never minded Furlong and Robert Patrick's T-1000 is one of the best movie villains ever. When I was younger, I preferred the first Terminator but when I rewatched it few years ago, I thought it didn't age that well. Still a classic though - and hard to beat when it comes to its glorious eighties aesthetic.

Thread duty: some new pictures courtesy of Entertainment Weekly.







"The truly novel things will be invented by the young ones, not by me. But this doesn't worry me at all."
~ Grażyna Bacewicz

Mirror Image

#72
August 18, 2015, 05:51:40 PM
Quote from: Rinaldo on August 18, 2015, 02:02:07 PM
I'm not a Cameron fan but Judgement Day is a masterpiece of action cinema. I never minded Furlong and Robert Patrick's T-1000 is one of the best movie villains ever. When I was younger, I preferred the first Terminator but when I rewatched it few years ago, I thought it didn't age that well. Still a classic though - and hard to beat when it comes to its glorious eighties aesthetic.

Thread duty: some new pictures courtesy of Entertainment Weekly.









Yeah, Furlong wasn't that annoying. I mean he didn't ruin the film by any stretch of the word. T2 is certainly a masterpiece I agree. BTW, those are some great photos! Will be interested to see how this story unfolds and how it ties in with The Return of the Jedi. 8)

TheGSMoeller

#73
August 19, 2015, 06:20:47 PM
I think the spinoff film Rogue One has the potential to be a classic. And I'm 100% onboard with Donnie Yen attached.

Rinaldo

#75
October 19, 2015, 06:57:31 PM
Hah, beat me to it!

Love Ford's line about 'all those stories being true'. Chills.
"The truly novel things will be invented by the young ones, not by me. But this doesn't worry me at all."
~ Grażyna Bacewicz

TheGSMoeller

#76
October 19, 2015, 07:03:55 PM
Quote from: Rinaldo on October 19, 2015, 06:57:31 PM
Hah, beat me to it!

Love Ford's line about 'all those stories being true'. Chills.

;D

Yeah, I'm very confident we have Star Wars back. Real villains, the original 3, and no Jar-Jar!

lisa needs braces

#78
October 19, 2015, 07:50:08 PM Last Edit: October 19, 2015, 07:55:47 PM by -abe-
The trailers for J.J Abram's films are always better than the films themselves.  ;D

lisa needs braces

#79
October 19, 2015, 07:55:28 PM
I didn't know Oscar Isaac was going to be in the film though -- he's been excellent in the stuff I've seen him in.
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