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Re: Mozart in Period Performances (HIP)
« Reply #700 on: July 22, 2011, 03:27:10 AM »
You have me confused.  Which works are you talking about?

The early string quartets, #1 - 13. Very rarely recorded, not because they aren't well worth a listen but because... ??? Well, hell, I don't know why. Guess it's because they are before K250... ::)

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Re: Mozart in Period Performances (HIP)
« Reply #701 on: July 22, 2011, 06:45:31 AM »
Yes, I clearly recall when some years ago you preached in the wilderness on Festetics' virtues before the Arcana resurrection. Three years ago, Gurn was probably the only other GMG member (apart from you) who had recordings by the Festetics. But I don't know if today the Festetics have gotten a really wider audience (I hope so) because here we are still you, Gurn and me and, fortunately, Leon and David are joining to us......

Well, I believe that there are more GMGers out there w/ Q. Festetics' recordings - of the Mozart, I just have the Piano Quartets w/ Badura-Skoda; but for a number of years I've acquired their Haydn SQ recordings (now own Op. 09, 17, 20, 54, 55, 64, 71, 77, & 103); saw the Mozart 2-disc set of the last 4 SQs at a good price on Amazon USA but not available at the moment!

Now I'm curious, what outside of Mozart & Haydn is of interest by this group?  :D

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Re: Mozart in Period Performances (HIP)
« Reply #702 on: July 22, 2011, 08:03:38 AM »
Yes, I clearly recall when some years ago you preached in the wilderness on Festetics' virtues before the Arcana resurrection. Three years ago, Gurn was probably the only other GMG member (apart from you) who had recordings by the Festetics. But I don't know if today the Festetics have gotten a really wider audience (I hope so) because here we are still you, Gurn and me and, fortunately, Leon and David are joining to us. Anyway I would recommend to every Haydn and Festetics fan to acquire quickly all their string quartets on Arcana because nobody knows how much time they will be available.   :)

I was only today enjoying their Op 64/2 (Haydn).  I haven't heard the Mozart though -- will do one day, I'm sure.
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Re: Mozart in Period Performances (HIP)
« Reply #703 on: July 22, 2011, 09:06:08 AM »
Well, I believe that there are more GMGers out there w/ Q. Festetics' recordings - of the Mozart, I just have the Piano Quartets w/ Badura-Skoda; but for a number of years I've acquired their Haydn SQ recordings (now own Op. 09, 17, 20, 54, 55, 64, 71, 77, & 103); saw the Mozart 2-disc set of the last 4 SQs at a good price on Amazon USA but not available at the moment!

Now I'm curious, what outside of Mozart & Haydn is of interest by this group?  :D

Leon has posted a couple of Hungaroton disks by them in The Corner. One of them I have is 6 quartets by Franz Grill. Very nice, actually. I disremember right now the other one, but he posted it again just a week or so ago, so it must be on the last 2 or 3 pages. He likes it, I am thinking I would too.... :)

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Re: Mozart in Period Performances (HIP)
« Reply #704 on: July 22, 2011, 05:20:08 PM »
The early string quartets, #1 - 13. Very rarely recorded, not because they aren't well worth a listen but because... ??? Well, hell, I don't know why. Guess it's because they are before K250... ::)

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You'll be glad to know the Jerusalem Quartet included one of them on their new Mozart recording (K157 IIRC--don't have the CD directly at hand)

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Re: Mozart in Period Performances (HIP)
« Reply #705 on: July 22, 2011, 05:46:29 PM »
You'll be glad to know the Jerusalem Quartet included one of them on their new Mozart recording (K157 IIRC--don't have the CD directly at hand)

Yes, actually I am pleased to hear that. Maybe it will inspire other groups to at least take a look at them. About the only one you hear from then is K 173 - #13 and of course that's because it is in d minor. Nice though!   :)

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Re: Mozart in Period Performances (HIP)
« Reply #706 on: July 22, 2011, 08:50:00 PM »
I didn't choose any piano trios. Maybe I will buy some church sonata instead of trios now.


They doen't look to be on period instruments? Anyway, I do know just the thing! :)
I actually play this recording quite often - the charm of these pieces as well as the performances proves to be quite irresistable.

One caveat for collectors in relation to the title "Chamber sonatas" on the cover instead of "Church sonatas": the recording sticks to the sonatas with the instrumentation of a "church trio": two violins, bass and organ. The sonatas scored for additional wind instruments are excluded (K263, 278 and 329). A chamber organ is used and not a church organ. Still, this recording is a peach IMO. :)



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Re: Mozart in Period Performances (HIP)
« Reply #707 on: July 23, 2011, 11:33:49 AM »
They doen't look to be on period instruments? Anyway, I do know just the thing! :)
I actually play this recording quite often - the charm of these pieces as well as the performances proves to be quite irresistible.

One caveat for collectors in relation to the title "Chamber sonatas" on the cover instead of "Church sonatas": the recording sticks to the sonatas with the instrumentation of a "church trio": two violins, bass and organ. The sonatas scored for additional wind instruments are excluded (K263, 278 and 329). A chamber organ is used and not a church organ. Still, this recording is a peach IMO. :)
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I didn't know if they are playing on period instruments or not. I think there are not much recordings from these pieces. Actually it is lighten my task to choose one.  :) Anyway thanks for the suggestion.

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Re: Mozart in Period Performances (HIP)
« Reply #708 on: July 23, 2011, 06:45:31 PM »
Just checking in to note that I ordered the Festetics "Last Quartets" tonight from Arkivmusic. 

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Re: Mozart in Period Performances (HIP)
« Reply #709 on: August 15, 2011, 03:26:21 AM »
Today arrived (brand new):


It completes my Mozart-Levine-Hogwood-AAM collection.  :)

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Re: Mozart in Period Performances (HIP)
« Reply #710 on: August 15, 2011, 04:41:44 AM »
I finally got around to hearing Jacobs's #40 and Immerseel's, too.  I'll stick with Minkowski, thanks.  I like the snap and bite and grunge.
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Re: Mozart in Period Performances (HIP)
« Reply #711 on: August 15, 2011, 05:01:19 AM »
I finally got around to hearing Jacobs's #40 and Immerseel's, too.  I'll stick with Minkowski, thanks.  I like the snap and bite and grunge.
I am impressed by Jacobs' 40th and have not heard Immerseel's. I have Minkowski's recording but I haven't heard yet.  :-[ But I love Minkowski's 41st especially the last movement. It is better even than Jacobs (I miss the structural sense in the last movement with Jacobs).

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Re: Mozart in Period Performances (HIP)
« Reply #712 on: August 18, 2011, 12:54:59 PM »
I am currently listening to the Rene Jacobs recording of Don Giovanni for the first time, and WOW, it's a revelation!

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Re: Mozart in Period Performances (HIP)
« Reply #713 on: August 27, 2011, 04:06:02 AM »
Alright question: what are your favorite PI recordings of Mozart's 35th and 36th symphonies?

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Re: Mozart in Period Performances (HIP)
« Reply #714 on: August 27, 2011, 04:55:58 AM »
Alright question: what are your favorite PI recordings of Mozart's . . .  36th [symphony]?



Haffner's harder - I have a bootleg of Abbado's inaugural concert with Orchestra Mozart in Bologna where he plays it real nicely.
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Re: Mozart in Period Performances (HIP)
« Reply #715 on: August 27, 2011, 05:25:10 AM »
Alright question: what are your favorite PI recordings of Mozart's 35th and 36th symphonies?

In thumbing back through my top shelf Mozart collection, I see that this is still in that position:



It is simply too well-suited to most aspects of my taste for me to stray too far. :)

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« Reply #716 on: August 27, 2011, 09:44:16 PM »
Alright question: what are your favorite PI recordings of Mozart's 35th and 36th symphonies?
I wish René Jacobs would record these works.  ::) (With Freiburgers of course.)

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Re: Mozart in Period Performances (HIP)
« Reply #717 on: August 31, 2011, 12:36:25 PM »
I am currently listening to the Rene Jacobs recording of Don Giovanni for the first time, and WOW, it's a revelation!
His Le Nozze and especially his Cosi are even better!
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Re: Mozart in Period Performances (HIP)
« Reply #718 on: September 01, 2011, 12:54:43 AM »
His Le Nozze and especially his Cosi are even better!
But for me the Concerto Köln (although they are very good) is not as the same level as the Freiburger Barockorchester. And I miss the transparent orchestral sound from these recordings which is so beautiful with the Freiburgers.

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« Reply #719 on: September 01, 2011, 01:51:57 AM »
His Le Nozze and especially his Cosi are even better!

Fully agreed, without taking away anything from his Don Giovanni.