Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto - the right way

[Sergeant Rock]

Kremer or Vengerov?


I've whittled it down to these two. What do you think? Kremer sounds intriguing, even as a First Listen?

If your whittlin' has eliminated Belkin/Ashkenazy, you're doing it wrong 

Sarge

[Dancing Divertimentian]

Kremer or Vengerov?

This one:




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[Brian]

This one:


(Sporcl)

GREAT choice. Sporcl, Kogan (Brilliant), and Gluzman are my top three for sure. Julia Fischer is great, too. Haven't heard Vengerov, Belkin, or Kremer, though.

[snyprrr]

If your whittlin' has eliminated Belkin/Ashkenazy, you're doing it wrong 

Sarge

Only available reissue w/DSCH1? (great timpani in DSCH passacaglia) yes- they say very nicely presented- but never originally on CD?

This one:




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Ha, I thought you were making a joke at first- Bruce Springsteen??? Booorn to Play Tchai-ko- ov-sky!!

[Brian]

Ha, I thought you were making a joke at first- Bruce Springsteen??? Booorn to Play Tchai-ko- ov-sky!!

It's the bomb diggity. Live performances, and amazingly enough, the Dvorak might be even better. 10/10 for sure.

[Dancing Divertimentian]

It's the bomb diggity. Live performances, and amazingly enough, the Dvorak might be even better. 10/10 for sure.

Ya.

[Brian]

Ya.

OK, I must correct myself. Just listened to the album again, and the Tchaikovsky is the better performance. The Dvorak is very good, but can be bettered by a very special artist (see: Mutter/Honeck), while the Tchaikovsky is simply top-notch, especially the finale, where I don't know anyone better. Helps that Belohlavek draws really detailed, vivid playing from the Czechs. (Love hearing the flute doubling the violin at times.)

[Dancing Divertimentian]

Ha, I thought you were making a joke at first- Bruce Springsteen??? Booorn to Play Tchai-ko- ov-sky!!

If it captures your attention I've done my job!

[Dancing Divertimentian]

OK, I must correct myself. Just listened to the album again, and the Tchaikovsky is the better performance. The Dvorak is very good, but can be bettered by a very special artist (see: Mutter/Honeck), while the Tchaikovsky is simply top-notch, especially the finale, where I don't know anyone better. Helps that Belohlavek draws really detailed, vivid playing from the Czechs. (Love hearing the flute doubling the violin at times.)

I'm on board.

[Drasko]

Kremer or Vengerov?


I've whittled it down to these two. What do you think? Kremer sounds intriguing, even as a First Listen?

Kremer.

Vengerov provides some really drop dead gorgeous playing, but what Kremer lacks in tonal department he amply compensates in wit. I find Kremer's choices consistently more interesting. Also, I prefer Maazel's accompaniment. He is both more assertive in tutti and manages to sound more intimate in violin/winds interplay in canzonetta. Abbado for all his customary sensitivity sounds more business as usual here, and Teldec placing soloist firmly in front doesn't help.

Should it be your first listen, or only recording? No idea. I wouldn't be without either, nor without Heifetz, Gitlis, Kogan and Spivakovsky. 

[Sergeant Rock]

Only available reissue w/DSCH1? (great timpani in DSCH passacaglia) yes- they say very nicely presented- but never originally on CD?

It was also reissued by Belart coupled with the Piano Concerto. That's what I have. If you could find a copy it would probably only cost you three cents 




Sarge

[king ubu]

Not that big a fan of the concerto, but some versions I like (got to dig up the Kogan box!) include Morini/Rodzinsky, Ferras/Karajan ... regarding Heifetz, I prefer the Barbirolli, I think (but having only recently acquired the big box, there are more versions to explore there!) ... I also need to re-listen to Oistrakh and to Tretiakow (w/Mariss Jansons, as with Kogan, that one can be found in a Brilliant box, and one that is very much worth looking for, in my opinion). Most recent discovery is Shkolnikova/Kondrashin. Only gave this one spin so far, but yeah, that Doremi disc seems to deserve a listen or two as well!

Also, I don't think the Rabin is as bad as this thread makes you believe ... might in fact be the one I've played most often so far (which doesn't mean I like it best).

[Brahmsian]

Does anyone else like the Ruggiero Ricci, with Fournet conducting the Netherlands Radio Symphony?

[snyprrr]

Kremer.

Vengerov provides some really drop dead gorgeous playing, but what Kremer lacks in tonal department he amply compensates in wit. I find Kremer's choices consistently more interesting. Also, I prefer Maazel's accompaniment. He is both more assertive in tutti and manages to sound more intimate in violin/winds interplay in canzonetta. Abbado for all his customary sensitivity sounds more business as usual here, and Teldec placing soloist firmly in front doesn't help.

Should it be your first listen, or only recording? No idea. I wouldn't be without either, nor without Heifetz, Gitlis, Kogan and Spivakovsky.

Yes, I did notice Maazel doing good stuff that apparently other conduxtors just ho-hum at... duuuuuh.... well, I got Vengerov cause he was only 17 cents! haha- but Kremer's only a few bucks.... let's see what the couch says....

It was also reissued by Belart coupled with the Piano Concerto. That's what I have. If you could find a copy it would probably only cost you three cents 




Sarge

mmmmmm... don't remember seeing that cover- will check .uk- three cents IS my budget right now!! (seriously, it's hit-or-miss, but a lot of things show up for pennies- and then- poof- they're a thousand dollars!)

I mean, Heifetz was pennies (for his ;Triple Threat') but I just don't want to hear that old sound- haha, it just makes me see Bing Crosby playing the violin, haha- I mean,... I can listen to old records AT NOON- but in the evening I need soundSoundSOUND!

(and, yes, I'm being totally a dikk because I've been listening on a rickety boom-box since I joined here) (Should I have even said that??) petrarch surely won't speak to me now!!


oy- how much is TODAY going to cost me?

[snyprrr]

Kremer.

Vengerov provides some really drop dead gorgeous playing, but what Kremer lacks in tonal department he amply compensates in wit. I find Kremer's choices consistently more interesting. Also, I prefer Maazel's accompaniment. He is both more assertive in tutti and manages to sound more intimate in violin/winds interplay in canzonetta. Abbado for all his customary sensitivity sounds more business as usual here, and Teldec placing soloist firmly in front doesn't help.

Should it be your first listen, or only recording? No idea. I wouldn't be without either, nor without Heifetz, Gitlis, Kogan and Spivakovsky.

You maaade me get the Kremer, haha! Well, at least I'll have a compare! ok, well Sporcl and Belkin for later, but that's it for me here, whew, by the skin of my teeth!