Well-known music you've somehow overlooked (or never got round to hearing)

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ComposerOfAvantGarde

Oh and his Bach and Brahms orchestrations. And the Concerto for String Quartet. And all of his choral music!

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: ComposerOfAvantGarde on January 15, 2016, 02:17:03 AM
Oh? They sound very similar in style to all his other music to me. Perhaps his suite in G for strings then? Even the key is in the title.  :-\

Are you saying you hear no stylistic difference between the Gurrelieder and the Violin Concerto? The Gurrelieder could have been written by Richard Strauss. The Violin and Piano Concertos speak a very different language.
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Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on January 15, 2016, 04:51:34 AM
Are you saying you hear no stylistic difference between the Gurrelieder and the Violin Concerto? The Gurrelieder could have been written by Richard Strauss. The Violin and Piano Concertos speak a very different language.
Well Schoenberg always just sounds like Schoenberg to me....the way every note works in relation to the other notes, the rhythms, the orchestrations and so on, that I can't really say any of his compositions could sound like they were written by anyone else. I can certainly understand why you would compare him to Strauss though, I find that all Schoenberg's music is written with a fiercely German Late Romantic sentiment.

All apart from the D major quartet which makes me think of Dvorak whenever I hear the opening! :laugh:

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Quote from: Brian on January 11, 2016, 04:45:46 AM

Mendelssohn also wrote the occasional great work for piano, if you're into that. Top of my list: the six preludes and fugues, Op. 35.

Could you tell me, please, if there's a recommended recording of this?
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I think I have a decent recording of op.35 on Naxos (Frith), but the most famous one in e minor has been recorded on several Mendelssohn recitals. The other famous (and very worthwhile) piece are the Variations serieuses (done by many famous pianists).
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Chronochromie

Oh yeah, I haven't heard any of Britten's and Janacek's operas.

Brian

Quote from: NikF on February 03, 2016, 11:00:16 PM
Could you tell me, please, if there's a recommended recording of this?
I have high hopes for Howard Shelley's brand-new Hyperion CD, but until then, yeah, Frith is good. I heard half the cycle performed live by Benjamin Grosvenor last summer, which was the first I'd ever heard them at all. Bowled over - hope he decides to record them.

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Quote from: Brian on February 04, 2016, 09:09:52 AM
I have high hopes for Howard Shelley's brand-new Hyperion CD, but until then, yeah, Frith is good. I heard half the cycle performed live by Benjamin Grosvenor last summer, which was the first I'd ever heard them at all. Bowled over - hope he decides to record them.

I'm going to fetch in the Frith, I really like his CD of four-hands Stravinsky with Peter Hill.
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Quote from: Jo498 on February 03, 2016, 11:13:15 PM
I think I have a decent recording of op.35 on Naxos (Frith), but the most famous one in e minor has been recorded on several Mendelssohn recitals. The other famous (and very worthwhile) piece are the Variations serieuses (done by many famous pianists).

Quote from: Brian on February 04, 2016, 09:09:52 AM
I have high hopes for Howard Shelley's brand-new Hyperion CD, but until then, yeah, Frith is good. I heard half the cycle performed live by Benjamin Grosvenor last summer, which was the first I'd ever heard them at all. Bowled over - hope he decides to record them.

Jo498 and Brian, thank you.
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Quote from: Chronochromie on February 04, 2016, 08:30:11 AM
Oh yeah, I haven't heard any of Britten's and Janacek's operas.

Peter Grimes is a wonder; though the story involves child-abuse so it's probably not receiving its due attention in recent decades. I grew up on the John Vickers recording...

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Quote from: Rons_talking on February 05, 2016, 05:05:19 AM
Peter Grimes is a wonder; though the story involves child-abuse so it's probably not receiving its due attention in recent decades. I grew up on the John Vickers recording...

I thought the child abuse was alleged, ambiguous at best, and the tension is the townspeople's belief that child abuse was going on while that was not the case... rather the point of the libretto. Still, an uneasy subject in any time.

I'd add Billy Budd, an all-male cast [crew aboard a ship], originally composed as a radio opera, and Midsummer's Night Dream.

His amazing Curlew River, is a Japanese Noh play cast as an early era Christian Parable/Morality play, and well-worth a listener's time; it also runs a little over one hour, so is brief compared to a standard full-length opera.
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ComposerOfAvantGarde

Midsummer Night's Dream is a wonderful opera! I admit I'm not too familiar with Peter Grimes, but I've been curious to get to know it for a while. I have all the libretti for his operas compiled into a lovely large hardback book.......I could get into more of his operas sooner or later.

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Quote from: karlhenning on January 14, 2016, 09:14:11 AM
Blind to Lucas's supernal genius, it is as if the sun cannot shine for you (poco) sfz!

Especially the blind part as then you have to pay attention to the dialog.

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For years, I ignored Debussy's Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune because I had continued to read it was a warhorse in which I usually avoided these kinds of works like the plague, but to my great surprise when I did finally listen to Faune, I just couldn't believe my ears. I was completely transfixed whenever I heard this work and I still am to this day.

zamyrabyrd

Delius. Saw "Song of Summer" a few months ago. Wow! That was the launching pad for my hearing his nature inspired suites and the violin concerto. Wow!
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Quote from: zamyrabyrd on February 07, 2016, 05:23:57 AM
Delius. Saw "Song of Summer" a few months ago. Wow! That was the launching pad for my hearing his nature inspired suites and the violin concerto. Wow!

I'd love to hear that work in concert! I'm jealous. :) Who was the conductor/orchestra? Anyway, yes, to those who resonate with Delius it usually is on first-hearing. I remember the first time I heard any of his music, it was In a Summer Garden and I'd never heard anything like it. Such a unique musical persona and one of my absolute favorite composers.