Top 10 compositions that you like but no one else does

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Karl Henning

Thanks, too, for the historical reinforcement of the need not to write "paint-by-numbers" music — even though that makes the music "instantly accessible" to the listener.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Jo498

Very interesting comment; I should relisten to some pieces with this in mind. I don't remember enough about the piano sonatas, but in the clarinet quintet my favorite movements are probably 2+3. It is still a somewhat puzzling superposition of the romantic "fantasia" of the slow movement and the brilliant virtuoso of the rest.

Interestingly, Weber does employ some kind of free sonata form in the Freischuetz ouverture (probably in the others as well, but I know this one best). There is a short dramatic development of the main theme of the fast section. But then the "resolution" is not "worked" out, but simply breaks through after a general pause.

Still, I find especially the three famous ouvertures, the Konzertstück and the f minor clarinet concerto brilliant pieces that can keep my attention far better than his piano sonatas.
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

vandermolen

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 12, 2014, 07:23:04 AM
Pettersson Symphony No.9
Pettersson Symphony No.14
Schmidt Symphony No.3
Tippett Songs for Dov
Mahler Symphony No.8 (Even most of the Mahlerites hate this)
Havergal Brian Symphony No.4 "Das Siegeslied"
Delius A Mass of Life
Bernard Herrmann Symphony
Hindemith Pittsburgh Symphony
Sibelius The Wood-Nymph (melodrama version for narrator, piano, 2 horns, and strings)
Pachelbel Canon and Gigue  ;D 8)

Sarge


Agree with the Sarge about Pettersson No. 9, Bernard Herrmann's Symphony and the Sibelius work.

Also:

Khachaturian Symphony No 3
Parsadanian Symphony 2 'In Memory of the Commissars of Baku'
Khrennikov: Symphony 2
Bax 'Paen'
Vaughan Williams: Tuba Concerto (much criticised in James Day's biography of the composer)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

madaboutmahler

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 12, 2014, 07:23:04 AM
Mahler Symphony No.8 (Even most of the Mahlerites hate this)

Sarge

Not me! LOVE IT! Find it hard to believe that quite a few Mahlerians hate it. Some of his most spellbinding music is in the second part I think, especially within the last 20 minutes or so.
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

North Star

Quote from: madaboutmahler on October 29, 2014, 10:09:27 AM
Not me! LOVE IT! Find it hard to believe that quite a few Mahlerians hate it. Some of his most spellbinding music is in the second part I think, especially within the last 20 minutes or so.
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madaboutmahler

"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

EigenUser

Quote from: karlhenning on October 29, 2014, 10:37:52 AM
Well, but of course, you're MAD about Mahler!   0:)    8)    :)
MAD = MahlerAddictionDisorder
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

Brian

Quote from: vandermolen on October 27, 2014, 12:31:44 AM
Vaughan Williams: Tuba Concerto (much criticised in James Day's biography of the composer)
David Hurwitz calls RVW's the only tuba concerto which deserves to be in the concert repertoire.

jochanaan

Quote from: madaboutmahler on October 29, 2014, 10:09:27 AM
Not me! LOVE IT! Find it hard to believe that quite a few Mahlerians hate it. Some of his most spellbinding music is in the second part I think, especially within the last 20 minutes or so.
I agree, and I am a "Mahlerian" by any standards.  For once, here, he revels in the simple joy of music.  (Maybe I'm prejudiced; this was the first work by Mahler I ever heard... ;D)
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vandermolen

Quote from: Brian on October 29, 2014, 01:46:36 PM
David Hurwitz calls RVW's the only tuba concerto which deserves to be in the concert repertoire.

I totally agree. James Day is quite wrong about it in his biography of VW IMHO.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Sergeant Rock

Perusing the Dvorak thread this evening, I'm sad to report another work I love that, apparently, no one else does: Dvorak Symphony No.1 C minor op.3.

Quote from: North Star on September 26, 2014, 06:50:12 PMI just tried the 1st earlier and it wasn't pleasant..

Quote from: Brian on September 26, 2014, 08:35:45 PM
The First Symphony is simply not good, my least favorite Dvorak work, and I have nothing to say in its defense. I could forgive its length and verbosity if it weren't so self-serious, full of dramatic posturing and grandiose intent.

I disagree with both our esteemed members, and wonder if anyone else likes it.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

NorthNYMark

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on November 01, 2014, 02:09:11 PM
Perusing the Dvorak thread this evening, I'm sad to report another work I love that, apparently, no one else does: Dvorak Symphony No.1 C minor op.3.

I disagree with both our esteemed members, and wonder if anyone else likes it.

Sarge

I''ve only heard it once so far, but I recall enjoying it quite a bit.  I certainly liked it far, far better than the New World symphony, about which I simply could not get past the impression that a Hollywood western should be playing along with it.  I can imagine some people being turned off by what might be called a certain "gothic" atmosphere in the 1st, but that is probably what I found most charming.  IIRC, Brian also dislikes Brahms's first piano concerto, which also has a sort of "menacing dark clouds approaching" feeling, and that is one of my favorite romantic works.

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on November 01, 2014, 02:09:11 PM
Perusing the Dvorak thread this evening, I'm sad to report another work I love that, apparently, no one else does: Dvorak Symphony No.1 C minor op.3.

I disagree with both our esteemed members, and wonder if anyone else likes it.

Sarge

Count me in, Sarge. I enjoy it quite a bit. What a bold opening statement that first movement makes.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on November 01, 2014, 02:09:11 PM
Perusing the Dvorak thread this evening, I'm sad to report another work I love that, apparently, no one else does: Dvorak Symphony No.1 C minor op.3.

I disagree with both our esteemed members, and wonder if anyone else likes it.

I do, too, Sarge, though I cannot yet speak eloquently for it.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Oh, listen to Henning, so someday he can speak eloquently, eh?   >:D    8)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Ken B

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on November 01, 2014, 02:09:11 PM
Perusing the Dvorak thread this evening, I'm sad to report another work I love that, apparently, no one else does: Dvorak Symphony No.1 C minor op.3.

I disagree with both our esteemed members, and wonder if anyone else likes it.

Sarge

I do most definitely.

Of course you know we agree a lot Sarge. You are always right, I am always right; do the math.  :)

amw

I like the First Symphony too, and don't find its length particularly excessive.* Its finale is particularly enjoyable for me. Brian and North Star should take their unfounded opinions to the 'Top 10 compositions that you don't like but everyone else does' thread  >:(

* what is up with people complaining about excessive length in a 40 minute Dvořák or Brahms composition and then turning around and praising an 80 minute Mahler or Bruckner one? do you have some sort of anti-beard bias?

Florestan

"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

springrite

Quote from: Brian on October 29, 2014, 01:46:36 PM
David Hurwitz calls RVW's the only tuba concerto which deserves to be in the concert repertoire.

Absolutely!
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.